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shockandawe · 09-05-2011, 12:28 PM

Will the ZL1 auto be short changed on HP like the SS versus stick?

*mlee* · 09-05-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shockandawe

Will the ZL1 auto be short changed on HP like the SS versus stick?

Autos will be shortchanged to the wheels anyway you slice it, but as far as at the flywheel it will be the same engine...

shockandawe · 09-05-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Autos will be shortchanged to the wheels anyway you slice it, but as far as at the flywheel it will be the same engine...

How come the autos aren't shortchanged on the Vette?

chvyman · 09-05-2011, 12:42 PM

vettes already get great MPGs , so they don't need DOD or AFM.

shockandawe · 09-05-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chvyman

vettes already get great MPGs , so they don't need DOD or AFM.

I don't think ZL1's will have AFM, there is no way their going to make minimum EPA mileage.

LostInMoscow · 09-05-2011, 02:04 PM

For some reason the Callaways have less HP in their autos. Just sayin'!

91Z28350 · 09-05-2011, 02:22 PM

The Calloway's are using the L99 as the basis of their mods, just like the SLP's. Look at the CTS-V's, same HP/TQ auto and manual, no afm version of the LSA to date, and I don't expect their will be one to be honest.

shockandawe · 09-05-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 91Z28350

The Calloway's are using the L99 as the basis of their mods, just like the SLP's. Look at the CTS-V's, same HP/TQ auto and manual, no afm version of the LSA to date, and I don't expect their will be one to be honest.

I tend to agree, there's no way the ZL1 will make EPA no's in fuel mileage in automatic form, so there's no need for AFM. You will just pay the penalty.

*mlee* · 09-05-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shockandawe

How come the autos aren't shortchanged on the Vette?

The Vette is no different... you will always lose more rwhp through the auto trans.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-05-2011, 07:42 PM

There seems to be two different conversations going on - and I just wanted to point them out for everyone...

Shockandawe seems to be referring to flywheel (engine) hp, and others are referring to rear-wheel horsepower...

shockandawe · 09-05-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

There seems to be two different conversations going on - and I just wanted to point them out for everyone...

Shockandawe seems to be referring to flywheel (engine) hp, and others are referring to rear-wheel horsepower...

Correct

IROCanSS · 09-05-2011, 09:29 PM

L99 - 400 hp
LS3 - 426 hp

Auto loses about 20% through the drivetrain
Manual loses about 15% through the drivetrain.

Numbers are approximate....

Corvette uses LS3 regardless of tranny so yes, the A6 Corvette may dyno less then the M6 for wheel HP.
A6 ~ 340 rwhp
M6 ~ 365 rwhp

Camaro A6 dynos much less than M6 Camaro.
A6 ~ 320 rwhp
M6 ~ 365 rwhp

Two conversations are now one.

Now, even though the HP is the same on the M6 Camaro and Corvette... there ar LOTS of other factors as to why the Corvette will and should smoke the Camaro.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-05-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jrhaus76

L99 - 400 hp
LS3 - 426 hp

Auto loses about 20% through the drivetrain
Manual loses about 15% through the drivetrain.

Numbers are approximate....

Corvette uses LS3 regardless of tranny so yes, the A6 Corvette may dyno less then the M6 for wheel HP.
A6 ~ 340 rwhp
M6 ~ 365 rwhp

Camaro A6 dynos much less than M6 Camaro.
A6 ~ 320 rwhp
M6 ~ 365 rwhp

Two conversations are now one.

Now, even though the HP is the same on the M6 Camaro and Corvette... there ar LOTS of other factors as to why the Corvette will and should smoke the Camaro.

Awweeeee.....You've gone and ruined all the chaotic fun with....logical conversation.

Danko · 09-06-2011, 12:32 PM

New ZF may lose 2% or less vs. MTX. This info is available. Give me the 8 speed ZF automatic, PLEASE !!!

09-05-2011, 12:28 PM	#1
shockandawe Drives: 2014 Z51 Corvette Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,349	ZL1 Automatic Will the ZL1 auto be short changed on HP like the SS versus stick?

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LostInMoscow Exiled Speed Junkie Drives: None Join Date: May 2010 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 803	For some reason the Callaways have less HP in their autos. Just sayin'! __________________

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Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	There seems to be two different conversations going on - and I just wanted to point them out for everyone... Shockandawe seems to be referring to flywheel (engine) hp, and others are referring to rear-wheel horsepower... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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91Z28350 Drives: 2012 GT500 SVTPP 2010 Traverse LTZ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roanoke,TX Posts: 665	The Calloway's are using the L99 as the basis of their mods, just like the SLP's. Look at the CTS-V's, same HP/TQ auto and manual, no afm version of the LSA to date, and I don't expect their will be one to be honest.

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IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	L99 - 400 hp LS3 - 426 hp Auto loses about 20% through the drivetrain Manual loses about 15% through the drivetrain. Numbers are approximate.... Corvette uses LS3 regardless of tranny so yes, the A6 Corvette may dyno less then the M6 for wheel HP. A6 ~ 340 rwhp M6 ~ 365 rwhp Camaro A6 dynos much less than M6 Camaro. A6 ~ 320 rwhp M6 ~ 365 rwhp Two conversations are now one. Now, even though the HP is the same on the M6 Camaro and Corvette... there ar LOTS of other factors as to why the Corvette will and should smoke the Camaro.

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