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Xavier1421 · 11-07-2012, 11:53 AM

Going to PBIR tonight for a little sibling rivalry/grudge match.

Mine: 2012 L99 with intake, tune, axelback

His: 2011 GT, manual, with intake, tune, axelback

He's always had a faster car - my lightnings put up a decent fight but were always slower and I never modified them.

What do you guys think? My take: if he has anything resembling traction problems, I should be able to hang with or beat him, but if he hooks, it should be close!

Not only is my car heavier, but I'm considerably heavier than he is - maybe I'll sneak my wife into the driver's seat, I've got her by 200 lbs.

Witt · 11-07-2012, 12:03 PM

Fairly common knowledge around here but it'll be close. I'd give the advantage to your brother because of the weight.

My local track most stock Mustangs average around a 13 flat and Camaros around a low to a mid 13. Not sure if its because of weight or rear suspension or gearing. Average a 2500 DA here during the summer.

Driver skill is going to play a larger part than weight or rear suspension between you two in my opinion.

blufin · 11-07-2012, 12:52 PM

Unless he's a complete meat sack, he should win, comfortably.

Deki · 11-07-2012, 12:53 PM

If he can drive the Mustang will win.

VADER SS L99 · 11-07-2012, 01:59 PM

OP needs more mods to beat the car if the Mustang driver is good. With no driver error and the right conditions thats a high 12 second car vs a mid 12 second car. 1/2 second difference in drag racing isnt even close in my book.

huitt06 · 11-07-2012, 02:32 PM

Add some headers...

Xavier1421 · 11-07-2012, 03:11 PM

My list of mods will be updated if tonight doesn't go well - haha.

Sadly, he's a damn good driver.

Blufin, you comin?

blufin · 11-07-2012, 09:17 PM

Nope. Had to work. The car is also out of commission Waiting on my new clutch to arrive. Hope it went well. Report?

LimaCharlie · 11-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki

If he can drive, the Mustang will win.

Xavier, your car looks great with those ZL1 wheels too!

Xavier1421 · 11-08-2012, 07:49 AM

Thank you LC.

Update - the track wasn't terribly busy, lots of quick cars...and mine wasn't one of them. My christmas list just got a whole lot bigger and more expensive.

Best of 4 runs (although I could have gone at least 8 times) was 13.2 at 106. 60's were pretty ugly. Car felt fast, but the slips said otherwise.

Mustang ran a best of 13.1 at 113, traction problems all night, especially the left lane.

It was a ton of fun, but I can't hide my disappointment.

toehead93 · 11-08-2012, 07:59 AM

What pressure were you running in the tires? I almost made it out there last night with a bunch of friends but they all backed out last minute.

Xavier1421 · 11-08-2012, 08:07 AM

My rears were sittin at 26. Which reminds me, I should get em back up a bit.

t-ray · 11-08-2012, 08:51 AM

Was your brother pedalling the first 8th mile? That sixty foot plus that ET would typically mean about a 108/109mph trap in a manual car. Not to mention he's picking up 26mph on the big end. Looks like the first half of the track was really slick, or maybe he was shifting *really* slowly.

Xavier1421 · 11-08-2012, 09:17 AM

He was babying it - the second to last run he spun 1st thru 2nd and sloppied into 3rd and rolled it down the track. The last run, he launched light, hit second quickly but didn't stab it then reeled me in (and fast) at the end.

11-07-2012, 11:53 AM	#1
Xavier1421 Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FL Posts: 79	2012 SS vs 2011 Mustang GT Going to PBIR tonight for a little sibling rivalry/grudge match. Mine: 2012 L99 with intake, tune, axelback His: 2011 GT, manual, with intake, tune, axelback He's always had a faster car - my lightnings put up a decent fight but were always slower and I never modified them. What do you guys think? My take: if he has anything resembling traction problems, I should be able to hang with or beat him, but if he hooks, it should be close! Not only is my car heavier, but I'm considerably heavier than he is - maybe I'll sneak my wife into the driver's seat, I've got her by 200 lbs.

11-07-2012, 12:03 PM	#2
Witt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Drives: Locomotives Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Aliquippa PA Posts: 264	Fairly common knowledge around here but it'll be close. I'd give the advantage to your brother because of the weight. My local track most stock Mustangs average around a 13 flat and Camaros around a low to a mid 13. Not sure if its because of weight or rear suspension or gearing. Average a 2500 DA here during the summer. Driver skill is going to play a larger part than weight or rear suspension between you two in my opinion. __________________ Certified Internet Master Mechanic

11-07-2012, 12:52 PM	#3
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	Unless he's a complete meat sack, he should win, comfortably. __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

11-07-2012, 12:53 PM	#4
Deki Drives: 2018 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,764 View My Garage	If he can drive the Mustang will win. __________________ 2018 Mustang GT

11-07-2012, 01:59 PM	#5
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	OP needs more mods to beat the car if the Mustang driver is good. With no driver error and the right conditions thats a high 12 second car vs a mid 12 second car. 1/2 second difference in drag racing isnt even close in my book. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

11-07-2012, 02:32 PM	#6
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Add some headers... __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

11-07-2012, 03:11 PM	#7
Xavier1421 Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FL Posts: 79	My list of mods will be updated if tonight doesn't go well - haha. Sadly, he's a damn good driver. Blufin, you comin?

11-07-2012, 09:17 PM	#8
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	Nope. Had to work. The car is also out of commission Waiting on my new clutch to arrive. Hope it went well. Report? __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

11-08-2012, 07:49 AM	#10
Xavier1421 Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FL Posts: 79	Thank you LC. Update - the track wasn't terribly busy, lots of quick cars...and mine wasn't one of them. My christmas list just got a whole lot bigger and more expensive. Best of 4 runs (although I could have gone at least 8 times) was 13.2 at 106. 60's were pretty ugly. Car felt fast, but the slips said otherwise. Mustang ran a best of 13.1 at 113, traction problems all night, especially the left lane. It was a ton of fun, but I can't hide my disappointment.

11-08-2012, 07:59 AM	#11
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	What pressure were you running in the tires? I almost made it out there last night with a bunch of friends but they all backed out last minute. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

11-08-2012, 08:07 AM	#12
Xavier1421 Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FL Posts: 79	My rears were sittin at 26. Which reminds me, I should get em back up a bit.

11-08-2012, 08:51 AM	#13
t-ray Drives: 2022 2SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 80	Was your brother pedalling the first 8th mile? That sixty foot plus that ET would typically mean about a 108/109mph trap in a manual car. Not to mention he's picking up 26mph on the big end. Looks like the first half of the track was really slick, or maybe he was shifting really slowly.

11-08-2012, 09:17 AM	#14
Xavier1421 Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FL Posts: 79	He was babying it - the second to last run he spun 1st thru 2nd and sloppied into 3rd and rolled it down the track. The last run, he launched light, hit second quickly but didn't stab it then reeled me in (and fast) at the end.