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GraySS2011 · 11-29-2017, 02:33 PM

I searched the Internet and there are about half a dozens answers as to why this message appears when starting the car and then disappears: MAF sensor, ABS sensor, carbon on the Pistons etc..

Does anyone have the one and only answer to why I see a message upon start up and a wrench icon "Service Stabilititrak" ?

I disconnected the battery and cleaned the Mas Airflow sensor and that did not help. I have noticed if I just flick the ignition key to the right and start the car, I see the message. If I turn the key and hold it until the the car starts, the message does not appear. I am just curious. Not the end of the world, but I would like to figure it out and need your help.

So please don't guess, if you have had this issue and found the solution please share it here.

Thank you,

Bob

mma · 11-29-2017, 03:09 PM

I've had it before with my VTC plugged in.. it was not fun, especially driving low speeds on the high way. If you got one, disconnect it for a bit.

GraySS2011 · 11-29-2017, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mma

I've had it before with my VTC plugged in.. it was not fun, especially driving low speeds on the high way. If you got one, disconnect it for a bit.

I don't have a VTC

InFiD3ViL · 11-29-2017, 04:02 PM

I get it from time to time at start when I let my battery discharge too much.

It is possible if your battery is starting to get weak. That is the most common cause of this.

mydreamcar · 11-29-2017, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

I get it from time to time at start when I let my battery discharge too much.

It is possible if your battery is starting to get weak. That is the most common cause of this.

This. Check your battery. These car are notorious for weird dash lights when the battery is low.

muffins4all · 11-29-2017, 07:13 PM

I don't know the exact cause, but my car did this when my #2 fuel injector was bad. After it was replaced I never saw the message again.

HDRDTD · 11-29-2017, 07:38 PM

Perhaps take it to one of the auto stores in your area that offer free ODB error scanning to see if it shows any codes even tho the 'check engine' light didn't come on.
Doesn't cost anything, can't hurt? If a code had been recorded, it might give a clue as to why your car show the 'service stabilitrac' light.

Other than that, since it shows your car is a 2011, I would definitely suspect the battery itself just from the age of the car.

JusticePete · 11-29-2017, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by muffins4all

I don't know the exact cause, but my car did this when my #2 fuel injector was bad. After it was replaced I never saw the message again.

A bad injector will create a misfire. When the car detects a misfire, service stabilitrac comes on.

muffins4all · 11-29-2017, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

A bad injector will create a misfire. When the car detects a misfire, service stabilitrac comes on.

Makes sense. Check engine light came on as well shortly before I had it fixed.

Gordo-D · 11-30-2017, 03:20 AM

Battery can be a common cause, see if you can "borrow" one rather than buy one just in case its not that.

camguynj · 11-30-2017, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by muffins4all

I don't know the exact cause, but my car did this when my #2 fuel injector was bad. After it was replaced I never saw the message again.

How did you find out it was a bad injector?

hesster · 11-30-2017, 06:52 AM

Ya gotta read the code(s) with a scanner tool to determine the actual root cause. With over 1000 readable codes, and many of them related to triggering a "SST" code, there is no single sure fire item that can cause it.

"The stability control and traction control warning lights can trigger for several reasons. The first step you will want to take will be to have the vehicle scanned for diagnostic troubleshooting codes. This will tell you what about the systems is malfunctioning. The ABS system works hand in hand with the traction control and it may have more to do with the ABS system then the traction control. Due to the lights flashing on and off, you may simply have a loose connection or wire. The service tire monitor is realistically the most important warning. If the tire monitoring system is failing on one or more tires, the traction control and stability control systems will not have the input from that sensor to make calculations. Start by having the vehicle scanned, and use that information to help the diagnosis."

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173650

GraySS2011 · 11-30-2017, 09:38 AM

Thanks to all who took the time to reply. A little background: the car only has 14,500 miles on it. I suppose anything is possible and a fuel injector could be bad. But with that mileage? I replaced the battery last year with an OEM AC Delco. But, I don't drive the car every day. This time of year in the North east, maybe every two weeks. So it is possible the battery depletes somewhat. I just hooked up my trickle charger to it and it indicated it only had a 45% charge. When it hits 100% I will try it again.

Since the message only appears for a couple of seconds and does not remain on the DIC, I am pretty sure there is no code in system. I might take it to Auotzone to let them scan it. I heard they do it for free.

For the hell of it, can someone just try this start technique: just flick the ignition key to the right and release it? It is a proper way to start it. Won't hurt anything. Then respond back and let me know if you see the same message I see?

Thank you,

Bob

GraySS2011 · 11-30-2017, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesster

Ya gotta read the code(s) with a scanner tool to determine the actual root cause. With over 1000 readable codes, and many of them related to triggering a "SST" code, there is no single sure fire item that can cause it.

"The stability control and traction control warning lights can trigger for several reasons. The first step you will want to take will be to have the vehicle scanned for diagnostic troubleshooting codes. This will tell you what about the systems is malfunctioning. The ABS system works hand in hand with the traction control and it may have more to do with the ABS system then the traction control. Due to the lights flashing on and off, you may simply have a loose connection or wire. The service tire monitor is realistically the most important warning. If the tire monitoring system is failing on one or more tires, the traction control and stability control systems will not have the input from that sensor to make calculations. Start by having the vehicle scanned, and use that information to help the diagnosis."

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173650

Thank you

11-29-2017, 02:33 PM	#1
GraySS2011 Drives: 2011 Cyber Gray 2SS 6 speed Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chelmsford MA Posts: 504 View My Garage	Service Stabilititrak I searched the Internet and there are about half a dozens answers as to why this message appears when starting the car and then disappears: MAF sensor, ABS sensor, carbon on the Pistons etc.. Does anyone have the one and only answer to why I see a message upon start up and a wrench icon "Service Stabilititrak" ? I disconnected the battery and cleaned the Mas Airflow sensor and that did not help. I have noticed if I just flick the ignition key to the right and start the car, I see the message. If I turn the key and hold it until the the car starts, the message does not appear. I am just curious. Not the end of the world, but I would like to figure it out and need your help. So please don't guess, if you have had this issue and found the solution please share it here. Thank you, Bob

11-29-2017, 04:02 PM	#4
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,575	I get it from time to time at start when I let my battery discharge too much. It is possible if your battery is starting to get weak. That is the most common cause of this. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

11-30-2017, 09:38 AM	#13
GraySS2011 Drives: 2011 Cyber Gray 2SS 6 speed Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chelmsford MA Posts: 504 View My Garage	Thanks to all who took the time to reply. A little background: the car only has 14,500 miles on it. I suppose anything is possible and a fuel injector could be bad. But with that mileage? I replaced the battery last year with an OEM AC Delco. But, I don't drive the car every day. This time of year in the North east, maybe every two weeks. So it is possible the battery depletes somewhat. I just hooked up my trickle charger to it and it indicated it only had a 45% charge. When it hits 100% I will try it again. Since the message only appears for a couple of seconds and does not remain on the DIC, I am pretty sure there is no code in system. I might take it to Auotzone to let them scan it. I heard they do it for free. For the hell of it, can someone just try this start technique: just flick the ignition key to the right and release it? It is a proper way to start it. Won't hurt anything. Then respond back and let me know if you see the same message I see? Thank you, Bob Last edited by GraySS2011; 11-30-2017 at 10:12 AM.

11-29-2017, 03:09 PM	#2
mma Drives: 1LE Join Date: May 2015 Location: California Posts: 267	I've had it before with my VTC plugged in.. it was not fun, especially driving low speeds on the high way. If you got one, disconnect it for a bit.

11-29-2017, 07:13 PM	#6
muffins4all Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: California Posts: 65	I don't know the exact cause, but my car did this when my #2 fuel injector was bad. After it was replaced I never saw the message again.

11-29-2017, 07:38 PM	#7
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	Perhaps take it to one of the auto stores in your area that offer free ODB error scanning to see if it shows any codes even tho the 'check engine' light didn't come on. Doesn't cost anything, can't hurt? If a code had been recorded, it might give a clue as to why your car show the 'service stabilitrac' light. Other than that, since it shows your car is a 2011, I would definitely suspect the battery itself just from the age of the car.

11-30-2017, 03:20 AM	#10
Gordo-D Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 390	Battery can be a common cause, see if you can "borrow" one rather than buy one just in case its not that.

11-30-2017, 06:52 AM	#12
hesster Drives: '10 C5 SS, '77 Bandit T/A Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 638 View My Garage	Ya gotta read the code(s) with a scanner tool to determine the actual root cause. With over 1000 readable codes, and many of them related to triggering a "SST" code, there is no single sure fire item that can cause it. "The stability control and traction control warning lights can trigger for several reasons. The first step you will want to take will be to have the vehicle scanned for diagnostic troubleshooting codes. This will tell you what about the systems is malfunctioning. The ABS system works hand in hand with the traction control and it may have more to do with the ABS system then the traction control. Due to the lights flashing on and off, you may simply have a loose connection or wire. The service tire monitor is realistically the most important warning. If the tire monitoring system is failing on one or more tires, the traction control and stability control systems will not have the input from that sensor to make calculations. Start by having the vehicle scanned, and use that information to help the diagnosis." http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173650