Automatic faster than the manual???

[joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Thats insaine. how can the auto be that much faster? that cant be right.

even the DCT transmission in an M3 is only .1 faster than the manual... and thats the best auto tranny in the world!!!

Yeah I agree. Hoping those numbers are wrong or misleading! 3.45 is that what some of you would call aggressive gearing? Cause I think they could of upped it more than that.

[Congoman775]

Also... does anyone know what kind of paddles they would be using? i got in a mallibu with paddles yesturday and found them to be... not so user friendly... usually (like on BMW's) you pull the paddles towards you to activate them, from the back of the paddle, but these you had to press like a gameboy w/ your thumb... it was akward

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Well. im all about speed, and now im in a hard spot. ive never owned a manual car before and was really looking forward to this being my first, but i dont know if thats locked in with the performance being so much poorer than the auto... UGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

Believe me when I tell you this because I don't say it lightly.

I'm a huge fan of driving a manual, and would rather any day race a manual on a track (any track). But to compete and the performance numbers that are there I believe i'm going to have to side with the auto and get me a paddle shifter car to race. it saddens me. but I want to be able to compete. . .

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Also... does anyone know what kind of paddles they would be using? i got in a mallibu with paddles yesturday and found them to be... not so user friendly... usually (like on BMW's) you pull the paddles towards you to activate them, from the back of the paddle, but these you had to press like a gameboy w/ your thumb... it was akward

you should still be able to pull them on the malibu. just should look like a + and - on the upper part of the steering wheel support. . .should. haven't actually sat in a new malibu but all the other cars gm has are that way.

[pinkcamaro10]

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by pinkcamaro10

see, you have to push those paddles, not pull them.

[Mr. Wyndham]

To downshift you pull, though, right?

I think their reasoning is that because they are attached to the wheel (and not the column like other OEMs), having both sides do the same thing will be easier to fiddle with if you have to shift in the middle of a turn.

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

To downshift you pull, though, right?

I think their reasoning is that because they are attached to the wheel (and not the column like other OEMs), having both sides do the same thing will be easier to fiddle with if you have to shift in the middle of a turn.

no the '-' paddle is the same set up... and you MIGHT be able to pull it.. but it looked set up for a push. Id be hoping for some larger pulling paddles, they are easier to use. especially at high speeds.

[Supermans]

Let's hope these numbers are simply wrong... I will have a hard time justifying a stick shift if it can't beat the automatic of the same model car in a drag race..

[AirGoya]

Are the camaro's paddles going to be like that? I would really rather have pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift.

Also, I think these numbers are way off. Are these GM's times or Insideline's times?

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by Supermans

Let's hope these numbers are simply wrong... I will have a hard time justifying a stick shift if it can't beat the automatic of the same model car in a drag race..

I feel the same way.

like i said before, this will be my first stick car, and ive been estatic about it for months and months, but after seeing this gap in performance... i really dont want to think about it.

i just hope its wrong. and i know thats an imature stance to take, but i really want my manual, but not if i dont stand a chance against a car that is HEAVIER with LESS HP and TORQUE

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by AirGoya

Are the camaro's paddles going to be like that? I would really rather have pull on right to upshift and pull on left to downshift.

Also, I think these numbers are way off. Are these GM's times or Insideline's times?

that's the setup that's on the vette's and every other car I know from GM. . .so why not?

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

see, you have to push those paddles, not pull them.

no you pull them you can't see it pictured but behind the wheel is a little paddle looking thing. you pull it don't push. I thought the same thing when I first saw them and then looked further. you don't push them

[joes3rdcamaro82/91/2010]

push to shift up
pull to shift down

both sides do the same thing