09-29-2011, 08:19 AM | #6273 | |
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09-29-2011, 11:46 AM | #6274 |
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"CAR #3 WHERE ARE YOU?"
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09-29-2011, 01:51 PM | #6275 |
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Admit it Dragoneye, the idea of a purple car is somewhat appealing to you. Joooooiiiiiiiinnnn Uuuussssssssss
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09-29-2011, 02:15 PM | #6276 | |
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Ford had a different series of issues. They were on the ropes when Bill Ford brought in Mulally. They were a mess. The loans Mulally took out were out of necessity. Without that liquidity Ford had no future with or without the beginning of a recession. Necessity turned into brilliance with the recession as liquidity evaporated over night. Now while Ford pretends to wave the American flag and their independence by not participating in the bailout they get into an interesting position. Mulally, the same genus that took out the loans, testified that the bailout was absolutely necessary or Ford would fail too. Why? Ford would lose their key suppliers so please bailout GM and Chrysler. The next is the relationship with Toyota. Ford has partnered with Toyota to build fuel efficient (read as some type of electric) large trucks. This is the same Toyota that pulled back from the USA to protect their interests when the economy got rough. Now the most popular vehicle sold in the USA for the last 30 some odd years will be built in partnership with Toyota??? Hey look at me. I am the last bastion of great American automotive manufacturing and technology. I didn't take bailout money. I did take government money to spend on electric vehicle technology and will gleefully share it with Toyota! All businesses live in glass houses. All of us. Throw stones makes about as much sense as burning money for heat because you can't pay the gas bill. I have no problem with bare knuckle product to product marketing. I have been known to occasionally engage in it. On the other hand, when I start claiming my business is more virtuous than your business... stick a fork in me becuase I am done. In the end, I hope Ford does well. There are a lot of good hard working poelpe that depend on the company. They didn't start this nonsense. I also hope that GM does better. The people that work at GM that stuck it out under the cloud of BK and Government Motors deserve a great result. |
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09-29-2011, 03:07 PM | #6278 |
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Padre Pete, well said!
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09-29-2011, 06:26 PM | #6279 |
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09-29-2011, 06:30 PM | #6280 |
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GM credit rating increased two notches by S&P
September 29, 2011 - 11:30 am ET DETROIT (Reuters) -- Ratings agency Standard & Poor's today raised its corporate credit rating on General Motors Co. by two notches, saying the automaker's new labor contract would allow for continued profitability and cash generation in North America...In a separate statement, S&P said it would consider a ratings upgrade for Ford Motor Co. after it completes negotiations with the UAW. If so, Ford's rating would be raised from BB- to BB+, S&P said. Congratulations GM. |
09-29-2011, 07:04 PM | #6281 | |
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09-29-2011, 07:25 PM | #6282 | ||
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09-29-2011, 07:47 PM | #6283 | |
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Sorry for getting a bit off topic. We now return you back to our regularly scheduled ZL1 discussions.
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09-29-2011, 07:47 PM | #6284 |
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09-29-2011, 07:48 PM | #6285 |
I used to be Dragoneye...
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Pete, get outta my head!
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09-29-2011, 09:22 PM | #6286 |
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