Who doesn't want an LSA Z/28?

[Riderover40]

Have you seen the reports out of the R&D kitchen for the future natrually aspirated V8........ 1000 HP ! What's that all about. If I can refind the article I will post the link but that being said for now I will be happy with the mods I have ordered at Livernois for install in the very near future in my 010 SS.

When GM brings out the Gen 6 Camaro I expect to see the top of the line be a Z-28 !! Dont you. I will be looking to sell my 2SS with decent returns and slap it down onthe best Camaro has to offer.

[KarFan]

LS9 and LS7 are out of the question and not worth debating. Their hand built cost is too high for the price point of the Camaro.

The LSA was developed to be a cheaper option to the LS9 and it's business plan is fit for less expensive vehicles like CTS-V and even the potential Camaro or Holdens.

An LSA powered Camaro isn't my idea of a Z28 and goes in the wrong direction of addressing some more pressing issues of the 5th Gen. But it's a powerful band aid and something that Chevy could easily market to profit.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by KarFan

LS9 and LS7 are out of the question and not worth debating. Their hand built cost is too high for the price point of the Camaro.

The LSA was developed to be a cheaper option to the LS9 and it's business plan is fit for less expensive vehicles like CTS-V and even the potential Camaro or Holdens.

An LSA powered Camaro isn't my idea of a Z28 and goes in the wrong direction of addressing some more pressing issues of the 5th Gen. But it's a powerful band aid and something that Chevy could easily market to profit.

The LS7 cost the same as the LSA, Also the Z/28 would not be a mass market car, but a nitch/halo car for the Camaro. Rumor is GM is working on a D.I. version of the LS7 (that would be wicked)

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by truth411

The LS7 cost the same as the LSA, Also the Z/28 would not be a mass market car, but a nitch/halo car for the Camaro. Rumor is GM is working on a D.I. version of the LS7 (that would be wicked)

LSA is actually a touch cheaper, and puts out more hp...

What's this DI LS7 rumor?

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

What's this DI LS7 rumor?

That would be wicked cool....

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

That would be wicked cool....

Not really....And I only say that cause it would be very difficult. The cylinder walls are so thin and the only way to utilize DI on a NA engine is to up the compression ratio. That'd be somewhere in the 12:1 range....the pressures would be outrageous. Plus there's emissions to to consider and cost. It'd only make an expensive engine more expensive.

Early in '08 GM had an Escalade mule sporting a prototype DI 6.2L V8 putting out high 400s and increased fuel economy. Combined with a company-wide attempt to decrease weight, I think that'd be the route they'd take.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Not really....And I only say that cause it would be very difficult. The cylinder walls are so thin and the only way to utilize DI on a NA engine is to up the compression ratio. That'd be somewhere in the 12:1 range....the pressures would be outrageous. Plus there's emissions to to consider and cost. It'd only make an expensive engine more expensive.

Early in '08 GM had an Escalade mule sporting a prototype DI 6.2L V8 putting out high 400s and increased fuel economy. Combined with a company-wide attempt to decrease weight, I think that'd be the route they'd take.

You went a lot deeper than what I was thinking... I was just thinking LS7 "type" DI engine.....

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

You went a lot deeper than what I was thinking... I was just thinking LS7 "type" DI engine.....

whoops.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

whoops.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

LSA is actually a touch cheaper, and puts out more hp...

What's this DI LS7 rumor?

oops my bad, got my rumors mixed up, The rumor is Gm is making a D.I. 7.0 V8 for its trucks as a cheaper alternative to a Diesel. Though makeing a High performance D.I. 7.0 V8 would be a no brainer IMO.

[coolman]

Who doesn't want an LSA Z/28?
My wife doesn't. Because ,she knows I'll trade my SS in if that happens. LOL

[Buckwheat]

[KarFan]

Originally Posted by truth411

The LS7 cost the same as the LSA, Also the Z/28 would not be a mass market car, but a nitch/halo car for the Camaro. Rumor is GM is working on a D.I. version of the LS7 (that would be wicked)

No the LS7 and LS9 are hand built at the GM Performance Build Center in MI. The LSA is not hand built and its whole reason for existence is to be a lower cost option for non-Vette performance automotive and marine applications.

There is no direct injection LS7 in the works.

The only DIG V8 in the works from GM is the Gen V small block and that looks to be about 5.5L.

[Q-ship]

Originally Posted by wildpaws

Stubborn comes to mind, you never originally said Vette to Camaro, you said top of the line Vette engine was never offered in Camaro. I certainly think the ZL1 qualified as the top of the Vette line engine in '69, I never said they were the same engine but similar (I did note that the ZL1 was all aluminum), further the ZL1 was used as a racing engine for the CanAm racing series. Anyway, you have your thoughts and ideas, I have mine and we'll likely have to agree to disagree.
Clyde

ZL-1 was in the Camaro first to get it approved in NHRA, I repeat it was NOT a Corvette top line engine like the L88. The two ZL-1 Corvette (as oppossed to the 50+ COPO Camaros) was more of a promotion deal that never saw the light of day. A GM install of the LS9 from production will not be happening in the Camaro....no way never and not in this life time. History is on my side here, so you can disagree if you want.

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

Time will tell, one of the facts in GM that you are missing is they they do not build a car to be second best. With the Shelby being a tick lighter than the Camaro it might be a bit faster in the Super Snake or KR option.
That certainly would not go well with the Camaro pride. I don't see them stepping around the hallowed LS9 and ZR1 to spend more on developing another engine. This company is here to make money. If it takes scabbing the LS9 from the Corvette to make more profit I say go for it!

Really the LSA is a great engine and would serve the Z28 very well. I am more than pleased with mine.

And I do have an LS9 for sale in the classifieds

Robin

Why would you need the 630hp LS9 to not be second to the 550 hp GT500 Mustang? The current SS isn't all that far behind the GT500 around a road course, the world is not all in a straight line. The LSA would do the job very nicely, with a intake change of course........