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asrapid · 02-02-2008, 07:41 PM

it probably could get more HP. Maybe it is tune for truck use.

96CAMaro · 02-02-2008, 08:17 PM

How about this - give me an engine that is atleast 327 cubic inches (minimum!), has at least 385/385 hp/tq (minimum!), 30mpg, weighs < 3600lbs, is super durable/reliable, and cost less than 31K.

*DGthe3* · 02-02-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 96CAMaro

How about this - give me an engine that is atleast 327 cubic inches (minimum!), has at least 385/385 hp/tq (minimum!), 30mpg, weighs < 3600lbs, is super durable/reliable, and cost less than 31K.

That could happen with a 5th gen with a gen V. If not, things will be very close

Splicerguy · 02-02-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

You know, I think that might be it. That might be our first Gen V. 326 hp is a bit disappointing, but the DI, AFM, and flex fuel capability are all there.

I also think this is our first peek at a Gen V V8. I have a feeling, given the platform, that this motor is tuned for truck duty. The old 4.8l V8 was only rated at 295 hp, so this one has gained 30hp and better fuel mileage. I think this is a good omen for the yet to be disclosed Camaro V8.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 02-03-2008, 11:26 AM

Yup. That's our little buddy - The Gen V engine.

Somebody said it here...326 hp...But this is a Hybrid setup. Sooooo - Let's turn that into a 5.3...or a 5.7, and we're talking 400hp with awesome fuel economy!!!

asrapid · 02-03-2008, 02:20 PM

it could probably delivered 40-50 hp more if it is tuned for..sports car..now with even bigger displacement...heh..it should be fun.
Is this completely new engine or..because when gen IV 6.2 with DI was presented to journalist it was said that for full tune and use of DI we will have to wait for new Gen V small block.

TurbineX-2000 · 02-03-2008, 03:14 PM

Make the direct injected,11.5to1,E85 compatible V-8 as the initial engine in the Z-28,and as an option in the base Camaro.The buyer can avoid "Gas Guzzler" taxes,and be eligible for "Alternative Fuel Vehicle Tax Credits". Sorta like killing two birds with one stone,and we could still have our high compression V-8 engines too.That would be a good slap in the face to that "Eco Hypocrite" Al Gore!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 02-03-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by asrapid

it could probably delivered 40-50 hp more if it is tuned for..sports car..now with even bigger displacement...heh..it should be fun.
Is this completely new engine or..because when gen IV 6.2 with DI was presented to journalist it was said that for full tune and use of DI we will have to wait for new Gen V small block.

I think you answered your own question.
This is a Gen V engine. That, being based on what was said about DI being implemented into the next gen engines. Does that make sense?

AirGoya · 02-03-2008, 09:27 PM

This sounds great and all about the GEN V but doesnt sound a lil underpowered that a 4.9L V8 with DI has 326hp and mustangs 4.6L V8 without DI has 300hp. I understand that its not really final numbers and they are for a truck but i was expecting those numbers from a smaller engine. Just think that the 3.6 L V6 with DI has 300hp and when given a larger V8 they can only crank out 26 more hp. Just doesnt make sense. I know its not final so dont jump on me. Just trying to make everyone think.

*DGthe3* · 02-03-2008, 09:34 PM

I just assume that its because of the fact that its for efficiency and because its a truck engine (sort of . . . )

Splicerguy · 02-03-2008, 10:04 PM

I believe this first Gen V is lacking VVT. I looked over th article a few times and did not see VVt mentioned. I think if this motor was retuned for HP instead of MPG and the VVT was added, 30 to 50 more HP wouldn't be out of the question.

I have to admit, I would like to see a bit more displacement for the Camaro Motor. I think a 5.7L Gen V with the VVT, DI, and AFM and packing 385 to 400 HP would just be perfect for the new Camaro.

Sweeper · 02-04-2008, 12:09 AM

4.9 liters is appox 300-302 cubic inches....

That's very interesting.

hmmmm.

vod · 02-04-2008, 01:53 AM

From the articles I've read they're putting all genV development on hold until further notice.

asrapid · 02-04-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AirGoya

This sounds great and all about the GEN V but doesnt sound a lil underpowered that a 4.9L V8 with DI has 326hp and mustangs 4.6L V8 without DI has 300hp. I understand that its not really final numbers and they are for a truck but i was expecting those numbers from a smaller engine. Just think that the 3.6 L V6 with DI has 300hp and when given a larger V8 they can only crank out 26 more hp. Just doesnt make sense. I know its not final so dont jump on me. Just trying to make everyone think.

3.6 l v6 and mustang v8 are DOHC engines with 4 valves per cylinder...this is CIB engine with 2 valve per cylinder so it is not hard to see why they will make more Hp per liter. But this engine is probably smaller and lighter than others V8 engine with similar output and yes probably this engine could get more hp if GM tuned it for HP. Or imagine if GM put supercharger/turbocharger on it.

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Specific power output of ls3 engine without vvt, DI,etc is 70 hp/l..this engine with same spec. power output would have around 350 hp.

02-03-2008, 11:26 AM	#33
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Yup. That's our little buddy - The Gen V engine. Somebody said it here...326 hp...But this is a Hybrid setup. Sooooo - Let's turn that into a 5.3...or a 5.7, and we're talking 400hp with awesome fuel economy!!! __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

02-03-2008, 03:14 PM	#35
TurbineX-2000 Drives: 2006 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Yucca Valley,Ca Posts: 9	Make the direct injected,11.5to1,E85 compatible V-8 as the initial engine in the Z-28,and as an option in the base Camaro.The buyer can avoid "Gas Guzzler" taxes,and be eligible for "Alternative Fuel Vehicle Tax Credits". Sorta like killing two birds with one stone,and we could still have our high compression V-8 engines too.That would be a good slap in the face to that "Eco Hypocrite" Al Gore! Last edited by TurbineX-2000; 02-10-2008 at 01:47 PM. Reason: Correct spelling error

02-03-2008, 09:27 PM	#37
AirGoya Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago/Carbondale Posts: 815	This sounds great and all about the GEN V but doesnt sound a lil underpowered that a 4.9L V8 with DI has 326hp and mustangs 4.6L V8 without DI has 300hp. I understand that its not really final numbers and they are for a truck but i was expecting those numbers from a smaller engine. Just think that the 3.6 L V6 with DI has 300hp and when given a larger V8 they can only crank out 26 more hp. Just doesnt make sense. I know its not final so dont jump on me. Just trying to make everyone think. __________________ -Tim

02-03-2008, 09:34 PM	#38
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I just assume that its because of the fact that its for efficiency and because its a truck engine (sort of . . . ) __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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02-02-2008, 07:41 PM	#29
asrapid Drives: Stratus Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 75	it probably could get more HP. Maybe it is tune for truck use.

02-02-2008, 08:17 PM	#30
96CAMaro Drives: '02 Impreza 2.5RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 304	How about this - give me an engine that is atleast 327 cubic inches (minimum!), has at least 385/385 hp/tq (minimum!), 30mpg, weighs < 3600lbs, is super durable/reliable, and cost less than 31K.

02-03-2008, 02:20 PM	#34
asrapid Drives: Stratus Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 75	it could probably delivered 40-50 hp more if it is tuned for..sports car..now with even bigger displacement...heh..it should be fun. Is this completely new engine or..because when gen IV 6.2 with DI was presented to journalist it was said that for full tune and use of DI we will have to wait for new Gen V small block.

02-03-2008, 10:04 PM	#39
Splicerguy Drives: 2002 trailblazer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 57	I believe this first Gen V is lacking VVT. I looked over th article a few times and did not see VVt mentioned. I think if this motor was retuned for HP instead of MPG and the VVT was added, 30 to 50 more HP wouldn't be out of the question. I have to admit, I would like to see a bit more displacement for the Camaro Motor. I think a 5.7L Gen V with the VVT, DI, and AFM and packing 385 to 400 HP would just be perfect for the new Camaro.

02-04-2008, 12:09 AM	#40
Sweeper Drives: 2008 Suburban Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 40	4.9 liters is appox 300-302 cubic inches.... That's very interesting. hmmmm.

02-04-2008, 01:53 AM	#41
vod Drives: 93 dodge viper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: usa Posts: 4	From the articles I've read they're putting all genV development on hold until further notice.