12-28-2011, 07:52 PM | #85 |
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12-28-2011, 07:57 PM | #86 |
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There's plenty here, too...I was trying to be thoughtful and not intrude too much on this thread with 6th gen talk...
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12-28-2011, 08:01 PM | #87 |
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Whatever wheel size they use, I can pretty much gaurentee you that the overall diameter will be the same as it is on other Camaros. Any lowering that they do (if they do any) will be in the suspension itself, not the wheel & tire.
Why? Well, they'd have to do suspension work if they're building the Z28 we want them to. So since they're already in there mucking around with the spring rates and damping ratio, it would barely cost them anything to spec it for a lower ride height. Assuming of course that they plan on lowering the ride height. Lowering it affects not only the handling, but also how steep of a curb or driveway you can go up. It also requires a re-do of the crash tests. Will it change these things my much? No. But GM would need to spend the time and money proving that it won't change things by much if they make it ride lower than the ZL1. Just a lotta hassle for not much gain if you ask me.
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12-28-2011, 08:26 PM | #89 |
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Honestly.... I would luv to see GM/Chevy pull a wicked move... Build/sell a Z/28, drop a LS motor in it with around 375hp and about 400lbs less weight over current Camaro... doesn't need every option available, strictly a street driver with the capabilities for very good performance that doesn't cost over $30,000......I guess I'm dreaming....
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12-28-2011, 08:31 PM | #90 |
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12-28-2011, 08:34 PM | #91 |
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my opinion, I like the ZL1 but I think the price/MSRP is going to discourage alot of folks... Chevy/GM needs to build a car that will continue what the 5th Gen has done.... they atrracted buyers and now they need to build and continue the Legacy...
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12-28-2011, 08:43 PM | #92 | |
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12-28-2011, 08:50 PM | #93 |
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What you are describing is not a Z28. Think of it this way a Z28 is to Camaro what the Z06 is to the Corvette.
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12-28-2011, 08:59 PM | #94 | |
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What people forget is that tires can weigh nearly as much as wheels. In other words a lot of thought needs to happen for the best results. I believe the reason the 19" wheel is wider has to do more with the aspect ratio causing a section width variation. I have concerns that the 12.2" width may rub? |
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12-28-2011, 09:04 PM | #95 | |
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I got lost in the references. I completely agree with what you're all saying about smaller wheels (and thus tires) being better. I would lobby for 18" wheels on the Camaro if I wasn't so enamored with the "perfect" look the 20s give it. |
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12-29-2011, 09:28 AM | #96 | |
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1) Certification/validation of the wheels and tires 2) Electronic re-do for ABS and StabiliTrak/Traction Control/PTM 3) Approach/departure angles, as mentioned 4) Ground clearance 5) Crash-testing...although here's an "opportunity": By moving the crash bar behind the front bumper UP an inch or so, you necessitate a new front facia, which offers an opportunity to get "creative". A slightly narrower upper grille opening would require a fresh grille design (near-flush, for better aero?) without re-doing headlites/signals, while a revised lower grille could also be made more flush...with ducting openings for front brake cooling ducts (offered separately through GMPP). It's about time for Pedders Pete to share his experiences with "square" 305-19s on the Pedders Camaro, and their everyday application in daily driver circumstances... As I mentioned earlier, the greatest knock against "shorter" 19s? LOOKS. You can't have the thing lookin' like an East L.A. lowrider on 13s... |
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12-29-2011, 10:18 AM | #97 | |
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Some years ago, I was given a GMC SEMA concept vehicle to run in the One Lap of America...a tasty lil treat known internally as "Syclone 2". It was a former Milford mule used in the development of electronic 4WD, based on a Sonoma Short Box Regular Cab pickup. The powerplant was a 4.5L all-aluminum V6 built to then-Busch Grand National specs, normally aspirated (which stretched the name association!) with a Holley 750 double-pumper and a mechanical roller cam. 5-speed manual with 3.73s. Chipped back to 7,000 rpm redline (unchipped=9,500!), it STILL made 375hp...in a 3600lb. mini-truck...with selectable 4WD. Mid-range torque was its forte'. Won Pickup/SUV Class with it. So I understand, CLEARLY, the appeal of what you speak of...but NOT as a ZEE/28. Z/36, maybe? http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176436 |
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12-29-2011, 12:34 PM | #98 |
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Too late; by then I expect the body design will change and I won't like the vehicle anymore. I've already seen the future from what's coming in 2012. However, still interesting to see the next GM move in response to the 2013 Mustang.
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