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jpsuperman81 · 10-02-2009, 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=toehead93;996198]

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Originally Posted by jpsuperman81

the bends were almost opposites. QUOTE]

You sure you didn't actually have them swapped on the wrong side

Not even close man, I hope that was a joke.

jpsuperman81 · 10-02-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fcu678

I'm really leaning towards Kooks did you install a complete system? How do you like it?

Don't let this decide it for you this is an isolated problem and the ARH is the best system for this car right now. Not saying there is anything wrong with kooks just saying don't let this event tip you over.

A.R. Headers · 10-02-2009, 11:07 AM

Thunder, I'm glad to hear you got them in. Nothing has changed in the design. It's the same headers since the start. With the steering shaft out of the way the header should slide right in. We did a set here last week in 2 hours after a 1/2 hour cool down. Positioning the header at the correct angle may have been the culprit. There is a sweet spot that allows them to slide in easily.

Enjoy the headers.

Nick

99-LS1-SS · 10-02-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by A.R. Headers

Thunder, I'm glad to hear you got them in. Nothing has changed in the design. It's the same headers since the start. With the steering shaft out of the way the header should slide right in. We did a set here last week in 2 hours after a 1/2 hour cool down. Positioning the header at the correct angle may have been the culprit. There is a sweet spot that allows them to slide in easily.

Enjoy the headers.

Nick

Nick, how similar are the Camaro and the G8 headers?

JDBeck23 · 10-02-2009, 11:14 AM

The driver's side header for the ARH systems was a sinch! But the passenger side was difficult trying to get the torque wrench and a hand in there with all the "junk" in the way. Bolting the driver's side was "wide open" as it gets, and getting both headers in place were very easy from the bottom. So im not sure where the problem was for your setup.

ThunderSS · 10-02-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS

I know the G8 and the Camaro share the Zeta platform but I don't know how similar the engine/steering shaft are. I had to unhook my steering shaft and my headers went right in with no effort. If you think the gen 5 sucks try doing it on a gen 4 F-body. I'll swap them on my G8 all day long before I consider the gen 4 again.

Trust me I know what your talking about.. I did my 99 F-body last year.. that was a major pain..

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Originally Posted by A.R. Headers

Thunder, I'm glad to hear you got them in. Nothing has changed in the design. It's the same headers since the start. With the steering shaft out of the way the header should slide right in. We did a set here last week in 2 hours after a 1/2 hour cool down. Positioning the header at the correct angle may have been the culprit. There is a sweet spot that allows them to slide in easily.

Enjoy the headers.

Nick

Nick Thanks.. even with the problem I had, I really do like the headers, and they are exactly the sound I was looking for.. Thanks

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Originally Posted by JDBeck23

The driver's side header for the ARH systems was a sinch! But the passenger side was difficult trying to get the torque wrench and a hand in there with all the "junk" in the way. Bolting the driver's side was "wide open" as it gets, and getting both headers in place were very easy from the bottom. So im not sure where the problem was for your setup.

haha, thats funny.. I found the passenger side a cinch.. toko me 5 minutes to get it in and bolted up ..

toehead93 · 10-02-2009, 12:12 PM

Has everyone used a torque wrench with header installs? In the past I have not because on my 1993 Z28 there is no freaking room, but with locking bolts I never had an issue with the bolts. I'm afraid my torque wrench is still too long and big to fit in the 2010 SS too.

toehead93 · 10-02-2009, 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=jpsuperman81;996255]

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Originally Posted by toehead93

Not even close man, I hope that was a joke.

Haha, you'd get a kick out of watching me work. On a 1-10 scale I'm a mechanical 3 and I either learn as I go or learn on these forums. You should have seen me trying to bleed my brakes after a rotor/caliper upgraid on my old Z28, let me tell you one thing, you cannot bleed the brakes when the calipers are installed upside down. I found the header install was a sinch the second time on that car but I'm so glad of all the extra room the 5th gens have.

Has everyone used a torque wrench with header installs? In the past I have not because on my 1993 Z28 there is no freaking room, but with locking bolts I never had an issue with the bolts. I'm afraid my torque wrench is still too long and big to fit in the 2010 SS too. Are there smaller wrenches you use? I'll be installing Dynatechs soon.

ThunderSS · 10-02-2009, 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=toehead93;996583]

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Originally Posted by jpsuperman81

Haha, you'd get a kick out of watching me work. On a 1-10 scale I'm a mechanical 3 and I either learn as I go or learn on these forums. You should have seen me trying to bleed my brakes after a rotor/caliper upgraid on my old Z28, let me tell you one thing, you cannot bleed the brakes when the calipers are installed upside down. I found the header install was a sinch the second time on that car but I'm so glad of all the extra room the 5th gens have.

Has everyone used a torque wrench with header installs? In the past I have not because on my 1993 Z28 there is no freaking room, but with locking bolts I never had an issue with the bolts. I'm afraid my torque wrench is still too long and big to fit in the 2010 SS too. Are there smaller wrenches you use? I'll be installing Dynatechs soon.

Yeah you can use a torque wrench on a 2010 Camaro.
just remember it has aluminum heads.. make sure to torque to specified torque settings..

GMRULZ · 10-02-2009, 04:02 PM

No problem here on my ARH`s 2 hour istall, like butter other than the factory cross threaded lt front o2 sensor...

Your problem would be one of several possibilities, engine biased more to one side from the factory, bent header in shipping or perhaps even a factory build flaw on your set. Everyone else these have been a cinch.

Who knows for certain but glad you got it straight.

markssylver · 10-02-2009, 11:32 PM

did you take the steering shaft loose the only problem i had installing my arh system was keeping the headers from falling back out before i could get them bolted in i did mine in about 2 hrs on a lift in the dark

boostedyards86 · 10-02-2009, 11:50 PM

this is very interesting. i did my whole exhaust system with the ARH long tubes in my garage on jack stands within 3hrs... everything just went right in.

Epitaph · 10-03-2009, 12:02 AM

Dude, I wish the exhaust on my S10 was that easy. For some reason, I just can't get the donut gasket on the crossover pipe to fit right. It took me 10 hours + 2 other people just to get this danged bolt into the manifold on the Passenger side. The driver side took me less than 5 minutes. That was a week ago

duder4thgen · 10-03-2009, 06:09 AM

Just remember, if you're getting them shipped, all it takes is UPS/Fedex/whoever to drop the box or set something heavy on it one time, and it can mess it all up. I'd be willing to bet a bend most people wouldnt be able to see would be the difference between a walk in the park and a nightmare.

10-02-2009, 11:14 AM	#33
JDBeck23 Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: King George, Va Posts: 881	The driver's side header for the ARH systems was a sinch! But the passenger side was difficult trying to get the torque wrench and a hand in there with all the "junk" in the way. Bolting the driver's side was "wide open" as it gets, and getting both headers in place were very easy from the bottom. So im not sure where the problem was for your setup. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS CGM American Racing Headers, Magnaflow axle back, Roto-Fab CAI, Audio Integrations Sub box, Alpine Type R 10, Alpine MRP-500 amp, Pro Clips iPhone Mount

10-02-2009, 12:12 PM	#35
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	Has everyone used a torque wrench with header installs? In the past I have not because on my 1993 Z28 there is no freaking room, but with locking bolts I never had an issue with the bolts. I'm afraid my torque wrench is still too long and big to fit in the 2010 SS too. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

10-02-2009, 04:02 PM	#38
GMRULZ Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,819	No problem here on my ARH`s 2 hour istall, like butter other than the factory cross threaded lt front o2 sensor... Your problem would be one of several possibilities, engine biased more to one side from the factory, bent header in shipping or perhaps even a factory build flaw on your set. Everyone else these have been a cinch. Who knows for certain but glad you got it straight. __________________ 2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter. Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s! Other car 2008 C6 Ls3, z51, A6, Npp Exhaust, best bonestock pass 11.80@118.82, Number 2 on the Corvette Forums Bonestock fastest list..

10-02-2009, 11:50 PM	#40
boostedyards86 Drives: Cummins 3500 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pgh PA Posts: 611 View My Garage	this is very interesting. i did my whole exhaust system with the ARH long tubes in my garage on jack stands within 3hrs... everything just went right in. __________________ 85 Buick TType - 5.3l GT4202r 10.86 at 126

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10-02-2009, 11:07 AM	#31
A.R. Headers Drives: Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: new york Posts: 263	Thunder, I'm glad to hear you got them in. Nothing has changed in the design. It's the same headers since the start. With the steering shaft out of the way the header should slide right in. We did a set here last week in 2 hours after a 1/2 hour cool down. Positioning the header at the correct angle may have been the culprit. There is a sweet spot that allows them to slide in easily. Enjoy the headers. Nick

10-02-2009, 11:32 PM	#39
markssylver Drives: 95 bbb impala ss Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: md Posts: 332	did you take the steering shaft loose the only problem i had installing my arh system was keeping the headers from falling back out before i could get them bolted in i did mine in about 2 hrs on a lift in the dark

10-03-2009, 12:02 AM	#41
Epitaph Custom User Title Drives: Fast Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 550	Dude, I wish the exhaust on my S10 was that easy. For some reason, I just can't get the donut gasket on the crossover pipe to fit right. It took me 10 hours + 2 other people just to get this danged bolt into the manifold on the Passenger side. The driver side took me less than 5 minutes. That was a week ago

10-03-2009, 06:09 AM	#42
duder4thgen Drives: Bird Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 266	Just remember, if you're getting them shipped, all it takes is UPS/Fedex/whoever to drop the box or set something heavy on it one time, and it can mess it all up. I'd be willing to bet a bend most people wouldnt be able to see would be the difference between a walk in the park and a nightmare.