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KaBoom1701 · 01-04-2015, 08:56 PM

So earlier today I was trying to explain to a friend the difference is HP between the V6, V8 and ZL1 in the Camaro line up.

It seems I've leveled up about 4 slots in the Camaro horsepower chart according to my math.

10'-11' V6 312hp
12'-15' V6 323hp (sold 13' 2LT/RS Camaro last month)
V8 426hp
V8 1LE 426hp (+suspension, ZL1 tires & rims)
Z/28 505hp
ZL1 580hp [supercharged] (bought ZL1 last week)

ZL1 with mods 640hp? (I do run 93 octane using 91 + Torco additive)

So here is my small list of power adder mods:

Roto-Fab Intake & Big Gulp Air Scoop, ATI Super Damper & 5% Under drive Pulley + 93 octane!

I need some C5 math wizards to help me out here.....

My guess is 640hp mainly due to the 5% under drive pulley. At 15% drivetrain loss for a manual this puts the RWHP #'s around 544rwhp?

Is this accurate? I know most people over estimate the hp gains from mods so I'm just trying to be realistic with my hp gain #'s during conversations.

Thx

flyer08 · 01-04-2015, 09:12 PM

I would get tuned for 91 if you dont have 93.

Not sure about zl1 power gains from mods since i dont have one but a bump of 60hp seems high.

KaBoom1701 · 01-04-2015, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer08

I would get tuned for 91 if you dont have 93.

Not sure about zl1 power gains from mods since i dont have one but a bump of 60hp seems high.

I'm using Torco fuel additive to get from 91 to 93.

Josh.Duncan · 01-04-2015, 10:16 PM

I am by far no expert but you seem to be close. A friend of mine, his ZL1 can be seen on ADM Performance Facebook page, puts 730 RWHP. I cannot remember what was done though. Lol

*mlee* · 01-04-2015, 10:24 PM

Subtract about 100 hp from your estimate.

An M6 ZL1 puts down ~500 rwhp and you've added about 40 with the CAI and 5% lower and no tune.

Edit: Nevermind... I see you're talking flywheel and your estimate would be correct then.

KaBoom1701 · 01-04-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Subtract about 100 hp from your estimate.

An M6 ZL1 puts down ~500 rwhp and you've added about 40 with the CAI and 5% lower and no tune.

Edit: Nevermind... I see you're talking flywheel and your estimate would be correct then.

Far enough...that's good enough for me.

BTW...you located in Houston? I fly back there to visit my corporate office at least once a year.

*mlee* · 01-04-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Far enough...that's good enough for me.

BTW...you located in Houston? I fly back there to visit my corporate office at least once a year.

Yeah, I work downtown. Hit me up and we'll do lunch when you're in town.

KaBoom1701 · 01-05-2015, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Yeah, I work downtown. Hit me up and we'll do lunch when you're in town.

Sounds good.

I usually go for 3-5 days when I do go to Houston. I'll look up next time I'm in town

Thx

sscamaro · 01-05-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Yeah, I work downtown. Hit me up and we'll do lunch when you're in town.

My son works at the Huntsman Chemical plant in Conroe.

flyer08 · 01-06-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I'm using Torco fuel additive to get from 91 to 93.

I saw that, just not a fan of the additives.

*mlee* · 01-06-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sscamaro

My son works at the Huntsman Chemical plant in Conroe.

..Or up in Conroe...

revobasher · 01-06-2015, 02:37 PM

Is there really that big a difference between 91 and 93 that would require a separate tune? I'd say no.

*mlee* · 01-06-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by revobasher

Is there really that big a difference between 91 and 93 that would require a separate tune? I'd say no.

Depends on the tune.

revobasher · 01-06-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Depends on the tune.

Yeah I suppose.. I guess I wouldn't want a tune so aggressive that it required such a targeted octane. Unless of course it was E85

01-04-2015, 08:56 PM	#1
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	ZL1 HP Estimate? So earlier today I was trying to explain to a friend the difference is HP between the V6, V8 and ZL1 in the Camaro line up. It seems I've leveled up about 4 slots in the Camaro horsepower chart according to my math. 10'-11' V6 312hp 12'-15' V6 323hp (sold 13' 2LT/RS Camaro last month) V8 426hp V8 1LE 426hp (+suspension, ZL1 tires & rims) Z/28 505hp ZL1 580hp [supercharged] (bought ZL1 last week) ZL1 with mods 640hp? (I do run 93 octane using 91 + Torco additive) So here is my small list of power adder mods: Roto-Fab Intake & Big Gulp Air Scoop, ATI Super Damper & 5% Under drive Pulley + 93 octane! I need some C5 math wizards to help me out here..... My guess is 640hp mainly due to the 5% under drive pulley. At 15% drivetrain loss for a manual this puts the RWHP #'s around 544rwhp? Is this accurate? I know most people over estimate the hp gains from mods so I'm just trying to be realistic with my hp gain #'s during conversations. Thx __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

01-04-2015, 10:16 PM	#4
Josh.Duncan Drives: 2014 1LT/RS Camaro; 2012 VW Jetta Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 526 View My Garage	I am by far no expert but you seem to be close. A friend of mine, his ZL1 can be seen on ADM Performance Facebook page, puts 730 RWHP. I cannot remember what was done though. Lol __________________ Mods: Vitesse Throttle Controller K&N Cold Air Intake MRT V1.0 Axle-Back Exhaust BMR Strut Tower Brace LG Motorsports ZR28 Black Wheels

01-04-2015, 10:24 PM	#5
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,501 View My Garage	Subtract about 100 hp from your estimate. An M6 ZL1 puts down ~500 rwhp and you've added about 40 with the CAI and 5% lower and no tune. Edit: Nevermind... I see you're talking flywheel and your estimate would be correct then. __________________

01-06-2015, 02:37 PM	#12
revobasher Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Blaine, MN Posts: 552	Is there really that big a difference between 91 and 93 that would require a separate tune? I'd say no. __________________ -- 2013 ZL1 - Blue Ray Metallic JDP 850 Package 740hp/700tq @14lbs on E85 Build Thread

01-04-2015, 09:12 PM	#2
flyer08 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3,418	I would get tuned for 91 if you dont have 93. Not sure about zl1 power gains from mods since i dont have one but a bump of 60hp seems high.