2010 Camaro engine bay showing DI 3.6L V6 LLT engine ?

[tony19118]

i am still planning on getting the v8 eventually, but im really excited about this v6 here! i have a v6 camaro now and this new ones gonna have 100 more hp than my current one?? thats awesome! i think the thing that makes me most excited is that our v6 will have pretty much matched hp of the mustang gt and almost 100 over their v6! very cool

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Sphinx002

GM has made moves that don't make sense before....Honestly my only point was that 260HP isn't set in stone. To me, I don't care. I've V8 bound. I can't imagine the turbo 2 L getting better much better gas mileage than the 3.6L DI in the Camaro, so to me, the whole idea of the 2.0L turbo doesn't makes any sense. That motor isn't made in quantity so I'm betting the cost difference between the 3.6L and 2.0 L is insignificant. Why bother?

Maybe the idea is simply to generate more sales to the unwashed masses by making the ones that automatically assume 4-cyl = best MPG attracted to the car?

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Maybe the idea is simply to generate more sales to the unwashed masses by making the ones that automatically assume 4-cyl = best MPG attracted to the car?

Also the average car buyer assumes V8's are gas guzzlers and V6's are not. 4cyl's are absolutely frugal -Not when they put out 300hp, and pull 3500 plus lbs.

The Solstice gets Turbo ECOTEC® 2.0L VVT DOHC (automatic): 19/26 (city/highway mpg) The Solstice weighs around 3000lbs. Add 40 more hp AND 500lbs (min) and I'll see you at the pumps with my V8.

[Camaro_Corvette]

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[Slave One]

Originally Posted by tony19118

i am still planning on getting the v8 eventually, but im really excited about this v6 here! i have a v6 camaro now and this new ones gonna have 100 more hp than my current one?? thats awesome! i think the thing that makes me most excited is that our v6 will have pretty much matched hp of the mustang gt and almost 100 over their v6! very cool

I know, huh?! lol, And just think... buy yourself a sick loaded V6 with all the suspension upgrades, enjoy it for a little while and... BAM!... slap a supercharger on it!! sick... just sick

[MerF]

Originally Posted by Radcannon

it is the LLT same as the caddys. She will be direct injection. If you guys are looking for real performance though i would go G8 all the way the thing is sick trust me. The new one u want ls3 here i come.

Huh?

[The_Stache]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

wrong......I know for a fact that DI V6 camaro would spank that ass aganist the mustang but... not so sure about the challenger R/T it has 370 HP and 375 with the six-speed, yes I know it is 2 tons and the camaro is under 3700....maybe but I think the extra 75 horses and the six-speed is more than enough to kick the DI V6 camaro's ass, so the DI V6 gota go way faster than 300hp, I was expecting 350-380 horses for the mid-trim but 300 come on man, and does this mean that the camaro would have only one v8 trim??, comments

I agree the Chally R/T manual has an edge against the V6 camaro. But look at what it takes to get that "Edge" rather than a significant winner.

The differences.

Camaro V6 - low 20's for price and the MOST common out of the production trims.

Chally V8 R/T - Low/mid 30's for price, for the 6 speed you need the track pack which is a guessed 2grand option on an already low 30's car, its not going to be as common as a v6 mustang or camaro.


ALSO someone was wondering about battery position, nobody knows not even the disciples (or if they do they are not telling). When asked about it they just mentioned that when inspecting the trunk they had no clear indicator of where it was.

[bouncertime]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

ALSO someone was wondering about battery position, nobody knows not even the disciples (or if they do they are not telling). When asked about it they just mentioned that when inspecting the trunk they had no clear indicator of where it was.

My Cobalt has the battery in the trunk, but you would never know it is there just by opening the lid. I imagine the Camaro is going to be the same way.

[ToneyTone]

Originally Posted by Dark Eric

Thanks for the photos, these are awesome!! One thing about the car though, it only has one hood air shock to hold the hood up? Looks weird. The 4th Gens have two, one on each side. I'm really going V8 now though, the Direct injection LLT gets only 17/26 economy, thats no better than the LS3:

CTS:

Powertrains and Performance
The 2008 Cadillac CTS is available with one of two V6 engines. Standard power comes from last year's optional 3.6-liter V6 generating 258 hp and 252 pound-feet of torque, while the available new 3.6-liter direct injection (DI) V6 puts out 304 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque. In performance testing, this engine produced a 0-60-mph time of 6.5 seconds. A six-speed manual transmission is standard with the base engine, and a six-speed automatic is available. The DI engine has the automatic as standard and the manual as optional. The CTS is offered in both rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive configurations. Note that all-wheel-drive models come only with the 258-horse V6 and six-speed automatic. Both engines get virtually the same gas mileage, with 18 mpg city and 26 mpg highway for the base engine and 17/26 mpg for the DI engine.

http://www.edmunds.com/cadillac/cts/2008/review.html


Chevy Corvette:

Powertrains and Performance
Both the base coupe and convertible Corvettes feature a 6.2-liter V8 that makes an impressive 430 hp and 424 pound-feet of torque. An optional performance exhaust adds another 6 hp. The Z06 boasts an exotic-class 505 hp and 470 lb-ft from its 7.0-liter V8. All Corvettes have a six-speed manual gearbox as standard, while a six-speed paddle-shift automatic is a no-cost option for the base coupe and convertible. The manual gearbox features new linkage for more positive action while the automatic has been recalibrated to furnish quicker response to the paddle shifters.
Regardless of which Corvette you choose, you'll get stunning performance. We spurred the base Corvette coupe from zero to 60 mph in just 4.5 seconds en route to a blistering 12.8-second quarter-mile at 114.8 mph, and Chevrolet claims that it won't stop until it hits 190 mph. Fuel economy is relatively impressive too, with 2008 EPA estimates of 16 mpg city/26 mpg highway for a manual-transmission Corvette. The Z06 is even quicker -- and at 15 mpg city/24 highway, there's only a slight penalty at the pump.

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...08/review.html

Dude, look at your source. Edmunds is notorious for having bad test numbers. All three C&D, MT and R&T got the DI CTS to do 0-60 in under a 6.0. Now saying that I have no dought that the DI camaro will be neck to neck with the whale of a R/T challenger. The SRT8 version only got a 4.7 pass to 60 so a mid 5 second number if not worse is expected out of the challenger. The DI camaro won't have trouble matching if not exceeding those numbers.

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by ToneyTone

Dude, look at your source. Edmunds is notorious for having bad test numbers. All three C&D, MT and R&T got the DI CTS to do 0-60 in under a 6.0. Now saying that I have no dought that the DI camaro will be neck to neck with the whale of a R/T challenger. The SRT8 version only got a 4.7 pass to 60 so a mid 5 second number if not worse is expected out of the challenger. The DI camaro won't have trouble matching if not exceeding those numbers.

I take back the whole kick ass thing, and I agree one hundred percent... but it might depend on the camaro weight which is still unknown, bet it still weighs under the SRT8....thats the only thing major thats holding it back the weight

[Nickdago]

Originally Posted by eR1c

-Point well taken. But like I stated above, I think it could use a little flare. Look, I still LOVE the Camaro and think it looks killer. But if we are going to analyze the engine ...well that's my comment.

I am hoping that the LS3 compartment looks similar to the vette. Clean and simple with Camaro plastered across the valve covers

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by camaro5

Also the average car buyer assumes V8's are gas guzzlers and V6's are not. 4cyl's are absolutely frugal -Not when they put out 300hp, and pull 3500 plus lbs.

The Solstice gets Turbo ECOTEC® 2.0L VVT DOHC (automatic): 19/26 (city/highway mpg) The Solstice weighs around 3000lbs. Add 40 more hp AND 500lbs (min) and I'll see you at the pumps with my V8.

You know this, and I know this and probably everyone reading this forum knows this, but to the average man on the street it's more like:

"Gosh, golly, gee wilikers! There must be something wrong with my Solstice... It's got a 4-cylinder and I only get 26MPH. It's a 4-cylinder, so I should be getting more than 35MPH at least! Must be defective or bad design by GM."

(Actual general public luddite comment)

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose, though? I mean, putting a 300 horse Turbo 4 in the base Camaro. The Sky/Solctice is 28 grand for that 260 horse Turbo...if they popped it in the Camaro for 20k, they'd need to give the Solctice/Sky folks something to make them feel 'special', to keep the the Red Line/GXP models stronger than an entry-level car, you know? That's what I think they may be doing...

I feel the Solstice GXP and Sky Red Line are priced too high. Really, for $30K you could get a T4 2 seat roadster with a few options, or a V8 full size car with plenty of those options standard. I've even heard the Solstice coupe might cost even more. Sure they're selling well and they are pretty nice, but they just don't scream "value" like the G8 does.

[TaylorRyanSS]

Dang a v6 camaro with just as much hp as a GT mustang... thats awesome
I bet ford is working on the next mustang and will try and top the camaro, if it keeps going like this were gonna end up with 600 hp camaros and mustangs in 50 years haha