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Dtrimpi87 · 05-20-2012, 07:48 PM

This probably belongs in a different section but this section gets more traffic. I have to take my camaro to the dealer tomorrow for a CEL. The light went off today but I read the stored codes and I had 1 for a misfire in cylinder 4 and 1 for the 2nd bank running lean. The only engine mod I have is a K&N Typhoon intake. Should I put the stock intake on before going to the dealer? I have the card that comes with the K&N that says the product WILL NOT void your warranty.

jd10013 · 05-20-2012, 09:07 PM

I was always under the impression that a misfire would cause the CEL to blink, as opposed to steady on.

Stealthpanda · 05-20-2012, 09:24 PM

Intake shouldnt throw a code, but putting it back stock shouldnt be too much of a hassle and may make things easier in the long run. Cheers.

Sterling · 05-20-2012, 09:33 PM

It's been quite a while, but I thought I remembered a thread about the K&N's causing a CEL... was that just the V6 though?

Stealthpanda · 05-20-2012, 09:37 PM

I mean... I was told some do. Random cars MAFs didnt like it or whatever. Dealer told me to be careful on what Cai I used and that there example was the Cobalts didnt like certain intakes and some threw codes... Id have to assume that this isnt intake related. Who knows though, certainly not me.

Cheers.

menendez1293 · 05-20-2012, 09:43 PM

It won't hurt to but I was told by my delear that a CAI won't void anything unless maybe the oil from the filter damaged the mass air flow sensor

Dtrimpi87 · 05-20-2012, 09:44 PM

It came on yesterday when I was driving the car moderately hard. No overheating issues, all fluids are good. It was a steady CEL, no flashing. After letting the car sit for an hour last night I restarted it and the light was gone. Its stayed off all day today too. It does seem to run a little rough on idle but everything sounds normal and it doesn't skip a beat when on the throttle. I'm taking it to the dealer to get checked out but I was just wondering if theyre going to give me a hard time for the K&N and be able to deny any warranty repairs if needed.

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Sterling · 05-21-2012, 04:55 AM

That shouldn't be a problem...

clg_98ta · 05-21-2012, 07:11 AM

Well, they will almost certainly blame the intake for the codes... so the problem won't be covered by your warranty. The only question is will they go so far as to void parts of your warranty...

It it were me, I would replace the stock intake and drive around for a few weeks. If the code comes back, take it in for warranty service. If it does not come back, you can reinstall the K&N and see if the code comes back. If it does, you'll probably need a tune (voiding powertrain warranty).

merlin803 · 05-21-2012, 11:19 AM

Did you check your MAFs to see if it is "weak" one? I know that I saw some threads on here about certain ones not being able to handle aftermarket CAI's.

I believe that you want one that has a two digit ID on it as opposed to a one digit one.

Dtrimpi87 · 05-23-2012, 01:47 AM

Well the dealer said they didn't see anything wrong. The tech pulled the codes and monitored the ECM and says everything is well within spec. No misfires detected and fuel trims are fine. Checked all the wiring for cuts, burns, and abrasions and said everything looks good. Cleared the codes and said to bring it back if it happens again.

The only thing they said about the K&N was that it wouldn't be the first time they've seen a K&N throw codes on a Camaro. My service writer said that if it happens again to look at getting a different brand intake lol completely the opposite of what I thought they'd say.

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Dtrimpi87 · 05-23-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by merlin803

Did you check your MAFs to see if it is "weak" one? I know that I saw some threads on here about certain ones not being able to handle aftermarket CAI's.

I believe that you want one that has a two digit ID on it as opposed to a one digit one.

Now that you mention it, I do remember reading something about that. Ill check my MAF sensor out tomorrow.

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Stealthpanda · 05-23-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

Well the dealer said they didn't see anything wrong. The tech pulled the codes and monitored the ECM and says everything is well within spec. No misfires detected and fuel trims are fine. Checked all the wiring for cuts, burns, and abrasions and said everything looks good. Cleared the codes and said to bring it back if it happens again.

The only thing they said about the K&N was that it wouldn't be the first time they've seen a K&N throw codes on a Camaro. My service writer said that if it happens again to look at getting a different brand intake lol completely the opposite of what I thought they'd say.

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Yeah, every dealer is different. I know Elkins did say there wouldnt be an issue, unless they could prove the modification caused whatever issue that might have risen. Cheers!

TooCool5 · 05-23-2012, 07:30 PM

Fuel injector cleaner.

05-20-2012, 07:48 PM	#1
Dtrimpi87 Banned Drives: 2010 2SS/RS A6 & 2011 1LT/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,491	Quick service question This probably belongs in a different section but this section gets more traffic. I have to take my camaro to the dealer tomorrow for a CEL. The light went off today but I read the stored codes and I had 1 for a misfire in cylinder 4 and 1 for the 2nd bank running lean. The only engine mod I have is a K&N Typhoon intake. Should I put the stock intake on before going to the dealer? I have the card that comes with the K&N that says the product WILL NOT void your warranty.

05-20-2012, 09:33 PM	#4
Sterling Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairhaven, MA Posts: 5,885 View My Garage	It's been quite a while, but I thought I remembered a thread about the K&N's causing a CEL... was that just the V6 though? __________________ Trifecta tune, Vararam Intake, VMAX throttle body and manifold insulator, RxPerformance Catch Can, , MRT v1.0 and Louvers, Barton shifter, BMR strut tower brace, RED dome light and Plasma LED DRL's, fieldgoal00's Halo 1 harness, hood spears/side stripes, rain guards, custom bowtie, Team LLT badges, headlight and foglight covers, taillight and side marker covers, backup light covers, WeatherTech floormats

05-21-2012, 04:55 AM	#8
Sterling Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairhaven, MA Posts: 5,885 View My Garage	That shouldn't be a problem... __________________ Trifecta tune, Vararam Intake, VMAX throttle body and manifold insulator, RxPerformance Catch Can, , MRT v1.0 and Louvers, Barton shifter, BMR strut tower brace, RED dome light and Plasma LED DRL's, fieldgoal00's Halo 1 harness, hood spears/side stripes, rain guards, custom bowtie, Team LLT badges, headlight and foglight covers, taillight and side marker covers, backup light covers, WeatherTech floormats

05-21-2012, 07:11 AM	#9
clg_98ta Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,698 View My Garage	Well, they will almost certainly blame the intake for the codes... so the problem won't be covered by your warranty. The only question is will they go so far as to void parts of your warranty... It it were me, I would replace the stock intake and drive around for a few weeks. If the code comes back, take it in for warranty service. If it does not come back, you can reinstall the K&N and see if the code comes back. If it does, you'll probably need a tune (voiding powertrain warranty). __________________ Black 2SS ordered 1/4/2010, received 2/19/2010

05-23-2012, 07:30 PM	#14
TooCool5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LS 3.6 LLT V6 325 HP Join Date: May 2009 Location: LS Posts: 4,242 View My Garage	Fuel injector cleaner. __________________ 2010 Camaro Auto, Inferno Orange, Titanium Interior, Gearhead Wheels AIRAID CAI

05-20-2012, 09:07 PM	#2
jd10013 Drives: 2012 camaro Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: central VA Posts: 3,196	I was always under the impression that a misfire would cause the CEL to blink, as opposed to steady on.

05-20-2012, 09:24 PM	#3
Stealthpanda Thread Ender Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,038	Intake shouldnt throw a code, but putting it back stock shouldnt be too much of a hassle and may make things easier in the long run. Cheers.

05-20-2012, 09:37 PM	#5
Stealthpanda Thread Ender Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,038	I mean... I was told some do. Random cars MAFs didnt like it or whatever. Dealer told me to be careful on what Cai I used and that there example was the Cobalts didnt like certain intakes and some threw codes... Id have to assume that this isnt intake related. Who knows though, certainly not me. Cheers.

05-20-2012, 09:43 PM	#6
menendez1293 Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 9,687 View My Garage	It won't hurt to but I was told by my delear that a CAI won't void anything unless maybe the oil from the filter damaged the mass air flow sensor

05-20-2012, 09:44 PM	#7
Dtrimpi87 Banned Drives: 2010 2SS/RS A6 & 2011 1LT/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,491	It came on yesterday when I was driving the car moderately hard. No overheating issues, all fluids are good. It was a steady CEL, no flashing. After letting the car sit for an hour last night I restarted it and the light was gone. Its stayed off all day today too. It does seem to run a little rough on idle but everything sounds normal and it doesn't skip a beat when on the throttle. I'm taking it to the dealer to get checked out but I was just wondering if theyre going to give me a hard time for the K&N and be able to deny any warranty repairs if needed. Sent from the rocket in my pocket, my all powerful DROID BIONIC.

05-21-2012, 11:19 AM	#10
merlin803 Drives: 2016 Summit White Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 759 View My Garage	Did you check your MAFs to see if it is "weak" one? I know that I saw some threads on here about certain ones not being able to handle aftermarket CAI's. I believe that you want one that has a two digit ID on it as opposed to a one digit one.

05-23-2012, 01:47 AM	#11
Dtrimpi87 Banned Drives: 2010 2SS/RS A6 & 2011 1LT/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,491	Well the dealer said they didn't see anything wrong. The tech pulled the codes and monitored the ECM and says everything is well within spec. No misfires detected and fuel trims are fine. Checked all the wiring for cuts, burns, and abrasions and said everything looks good. Cleared the codes and said to bring it back if it happens again. The only thing they said about the K&N was that it wouldn't be the first time they've seen a K&N throw codes on a Camaro. My service writer said that if it happens again to look at getting a different brand intake lol completely the opposite of what I thought they'd say. Sent from the rocket in my pocket, my all powerful DROID BIONIC.