Rumor or truth? Top end V8 engine details...

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by Nickdago

No way the Camaro with the LS3 is going to be under 30k. The pontiac G8 GT is a similar car in everyway and is closer to 40k, this is where the Camaro with the LS3 will be. The G8 with the lesser V8 is at 32K, how can the Camaro w/the LS3 possibly be under 30k

Where in the world have you gotten your #'s from?!?!?! The G8 GT w/ the L76 361hp V8 is priced at 29K....AND...drumrolll......it's a Pontiac. Read below. Pontiacs were ALWAYS more expensive than Chevys. Just look at the TA's of 2002. Add a sport package to the previous G8 GT and you are now at 31K. Now......when the G8 GXP is released w/ the LS3 (what I think you are talking about) it'll be closer to 40K. But, you are getting a whole different car for the cash.

Again, this Camaro MUST compete w/ the Mustang GT....in every way, shape, and form. If the price is too high, it won't cut it. A base V8, IMO, should have the LS3, IMO, and will be under 30K. This will lead to the Camaro community going nuts, buying up all the V8's, GM will have to open another factory to try to meet demands, all the V6's will be sold, all the top of the line (Z28's) Camaro's will be sold. GM will be adding extra shifts to try to get them all out the door..... close your eyes and picture it.

Originally Posted by DGthe3

1. Pontiacs are typically more expensive than a similar Chevy
2. LS3 is supposed to cost less to produce (after inflation) than LS1's
3. The Camaro needs to be priced within reach of the Mustang
4. GM is aiming to have "Best in class _____" over and over for the Camaro.
5. It's supposed to be hard to believe the level of performance you get with a Camaro.

Oh, and the LS3 does cost less than the LS1. Go look for a crate engine and compare. Last I remember, LS1's were going for 7K and the LS3 was at 6,800 or something like that.

[Sphinx002]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

1. Pontiacs are typically more expensive than a similar Chevy
2. LS3 is supposed to cost less to produce (after inflation) than LS1's
3. The Camaro needs to be priced within reach of the Mustang
4. GM is aiming to have "Best in class _____" over and over for the Camaro.
5. It's supposed to be hard to believe the level of performance you get with a Camaro.

You forgot a couple...

* The G8GT isn't anywhere NEAR 40K, it's 32K loaded
* The G8 is produced in Australia then shipped over here. It will be vastly less expensive to produce in Canada.

[greenrail]

Think about that for a minute. Collectively we are worried about Fuel Consumption. However, we consistently question why Vehicles are getting heavier.

The reasons are many. Consider the Federally mandated Safety requirements. Stbility control? Airbags? Roll over strength, ABS, Restraints (i.e. Seat belts).

This may be slightly off topic, but it does look at the reasons for the various powertrains being considered.

All of these elements have contributed to additional weight to our beloved vehicles. All of these enhancements come at a price.

Add to this customer demands for ride quality, environment (i.e. Quiet!), emissions, ad infinitum!

It all adds up to more weight. Sure we could have a lightweight econobox. But that isn't the purpose of the Camaro.

In the end, it all has an impact on the types of powertrains needed to move these vehicles efficiently.

In the end, it boils down to what we (like it or not) have mandated as a society.

That's just the weight and performance side. Obviously it takes its toll on Financial Cost of the vehicle!

You will have many choices. V-6? V-8?, Turbo 4? Manual Tranny? Automatic?

That's what makes this such a great opportunity for both the Manufacturer and the Consumer!

[AirGoya]

Originally Posted by Sphinx002

You forgot a couple...

* The G8GT isn't anywhere NEAR 40K, it's 32K loaded
* I'm not getting on you, but just so you know, when we are talking about the 40K G8, we're talking about the GXP with the LS3. We are using this as a comparison because of its engine.
* The G8 is produced in Australia then shipped over here. It will be vastly less expensive to produce in Canada.
* That is a very good point, never thought about that.

[AirGoya]

That GN might have the turbo V6 that we've been hearing about for future cars. Remember Dragon...?

[17ac]

So I'm kinda confused, lets say the base V8 Camaro does get a LS3, does that mean a 30000 dollar 430 HP Camaro is better than a 425 HP 40000 dollar Challenger?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by 17ac

So I'm kinda confused, lets say the base V8 Camaro does get a LS3, does that mean a 30000 dollar 430 HP Camaro is better than a 425 HP 40000 dollar Challenger?

By george, I think he's got it!

[TAG UR IT]

^