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Old 12-29-2009, 01:04 PM   #43
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so why introduce the z28 below a current level car? lol.

pipe dream.

current run maybe minor upgrades here and there

Z28 - DI-V8 550+hp 550+ tq. M6 or A6 for those people that are too scared to remove their hands from the wheel. and vastly superior suspension over every other camaro

ZL-1 LS9, fatter rear tires and no turning capability but runs 11's in motortrend and 10's with a good drive behind the wheel.
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:53 PM   #44
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so why introduce the z28 below a current level car? lol.
Actually Z/28 would be where the SS is now (with the handling mods you mentioned)..with the SS being upgraded to compete with GT500.

In all actuality I do not see GM in the current state of the economy and push away from oil putting out a car that would have a small sales volume.

OO I know a Z/28 Hybrid with a electric motor like whats in the Tesla.
0-60 in 3.7 sec.
288 peak horsepower
295 lb-ft of torque.
Redline at 14,000 rpm
Top Speed: 125 mph
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:33 PM   #45
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Actually Z/28 would be where the SS is now (with the handling mods you mentioned)..with the SS being upgraded to compete with GT500.

In all actuality I do not see GM in the current state of the economy and push away from oil putting out a car that would have a small sales volume.

OO I know a Z/28 Hybrid with a electric motor like whats in the Tesla.
0-60 in 3.7 sec.
288 peak horsepower
295 lb-ft of torque.
Redline at 14,000 rpm
Top Speed: 125 mph
I still hold that SS is just a name that doesn't evoke the emotion that ZL-1 and Z28 do. a DI Z28 at 550+ hp with suspension mods would be where the ss is now? don't get that but ok. however you see it.

top speed of 125 yea ok. . .lmao. for what 125k?
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:14 PM   #46
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if the only thing really keeping you from buying a camaro now is the fact you have no idea about a Z28 or the possibility of an update. . .you will always be waiting. the ss as of now is the best you can get and in 2 years there will be something better. and 2 years from that quite possibly something better. it's a never ending cycle. you will have to bite the bullet and buy one eventually and it will end up being out done a few years from then. so buy now and get it over with, or wait forever. . .
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:26 AM   #47
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I still hold that SS is just a name that doesn't evoke the emotion that ZL-1 and Z28 do. a DI Z28 at 550+ hp with suspension mods would be where the ss is now? don't get that but ok. however you see it.

top speed of 125 yea ok. . .lmao. for what 125k?
I would tend to agree 1969 ZL1 Camaro and Z/28 does invoke images of tire shreading HP's.

uhmm just read some facts about the last time GM offered the SS and the Z/28 at the same time...errr your right

DI Z28 at 550+ hp with suspension mods

Oh about the Electric cars..wait a few years..the battery tech will increase and price will go down but for now there is this
Ultimate Aero EV
1,000 HP and 800 lb-ft of torque enabling it to rocket to 60 mph in a mere 2.5 seconds and reach a top speed of 208 mph!
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:10 PM   #48
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I would tend to agree 1969 ZL1 Camaro and Z/28 does invoke images of tire shreading HP's.

uhmm just read some facts about the last time GM offered the SS and the Z/28 at the same time...errr your right

DI Z28 at 550+ hp with suspension mods

Oh about the Electric cars..wait a few years..the battery tech will increase and price will go down but for now there is this
Ultimate Aero EV
1,000 HP and 800 lb-ft of torque enabling it to rocket to 60 mph in a mere 2.5 seconds and reach a top speed of 208 mph!
the last time the SS was above the Z because the Z was already in production, SLP came to GM and wanted to do the SS. That's why the SS was the higher teir. but in reality it was a Z28/SS. because all SS cars started life as a Z28.



now the aero is a cool car. but get me one that can reproduce electricity as it goes along (honda clarity hydrogen powered car slightly modified can reproduce the hydrogen. . . .hmmmm need smarter people then me looking at that) I would go for that. but being the short range I know the tesla is rated to 200+ miles but top gear only got 54 miles out of it. very short range. oh well. great concepts but reality (reality=mass produced cars for everyone) not yet.
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great concepts but reality (reality=mass produced cars for everyone) not yet.
agreed. It will be getting another push toward electric when gas hits 4-5 dollars a gallon again.
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I wish someone could actually answer the title question of this thread, then I'd have more of an idea when I'll actually get a Camaro!

I really want to hold off for the Z/28, but if it doesn't actually happen... then an SS is totally fine with me! Then again, I would kinda want to wait for the next "update" to see if they change anything body/engine-wise too...
I hear you... Money is going to be a factor for me as well, unfortunately... BUT, all $ aside, the ZL575 might not be a bad way to go if Z28 never sees the light of day.
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Old 12-30-2009, 02:13 PM   #51
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SLP Z28... Just my guess. Why not? Ford has the Shelby GT500.
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Well if your going that route..Hennessey has the LS9 HPE700

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Old 02-19-2010, 11:31 AM   #53
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Ya think they will just drop a supercharger on a ss and call it a z28?
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absolutely not. That goes completely against what the Z28 means to nearly everyone. For the Z28, handling was the primary concern followed by power. Simply adding a supercharger would be more in-line with a ZL1 or SS nameplate than Z28.
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:03 PM   #54
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SLP Z28... Just my guess. Why not? Ford has the Shelby GT500.
There's much at work regarding this statement in the realm of trademark and copyright ownership....
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I keep reading about the Z28 being in the works or on the drawing board. Does anyone know FOR SURE if this car is going to be made? What it looks like? How much it will cost? When it will be produced?

If it's for real, I think I might try to talk my wife into selling the Mustang. On the other hand, the 2010 Mustang GT is really nice and I'm thinking of dropping a Ford Racing supercharger in it (resulting in either 400 rwhp or 475 rwhp). It would cost between $5000 to $7000 (installed). I suppose it will be her decision ultimately. My wife has always been a Camaro girl (except for the 2010).

Please note: I'm NOT trying to stir up a debate about her choice of the Mustang over the Camaro - please don't start flaming her decision or how the Mustang sucks. Anyway, if anyone has accurate info on the Z28, to include HP ratings (rear wheel), please post-up! Thanks.
motor trend's site says "The Z28 is a GO" and will come out in late 2011 and is on their site i will post the link below.... BTW!!! its is suppose to have the CTS-V's LSA with 556hp and will be faster to CTS-V due to weight as it is lighter.

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/..._go/index.html
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Last time the Camaro was in production this was true. However, whats happening this time is GM came to the conclusion that every Chevy can have a Super Sport version or SS, like the Cobalt, HHR, Impala, etc. However, there is only one car that can be a Z28, and that's a Camaro. As a result of this thinking, if the Z28 see's the light of day (Which I think it will sooner or later) it will be the top of the line Camaro.

Now there is a Crevat to that, it is possible that the top dog engine wise would be a "ZL1" or something, and then they would make a Z28 that would be like a leaner track car.

But pretty sure that if they only make a Z28 in the near future it will be the highest trim level on the car.

So what's wrong with an SS version of Colbalt, HHR, Impala, etc. Historically go back to the 60s/70s and find SS Novas, Impalas, and probably the car that defines SS more than any other, the SS 396 Chevelle.

You are probably right about the Z28, but if they followed history there, it would be better represented by turbo/super charging the V6.

Now, if they would only come out with a 5th gen COPO
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