Could u basically say the ZL1 comes with a Ls9 motor?

[Drake Heminger]

So the LSA is a name all in itself... And after reading some good info it's an amazing motor design (: (:

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports

The LS9 engine was specifically designed to handle 800 BHP right from the jump. Even the block and cylinder heads are made of a different aluminum alloy that contributes to its durability. We have built several ZR1s that made just over 700 wheel HP on stock bottom ends....the blower actually ran out of steam!

Interesting trivia......the extra power the ZL1 LSA produces over the prior LSA is in the blower. Eaton who manufactures the 1900 and 2300 TVS rotors signiificantly improved the sealing of the supercharger therefore improving its efficiency. The LSA in the 2012 CTSV makes the same power but GM decided not to go through all the remarketing for the change....same motors...

Camshaft, cylinders heads and even the calibrations are the same. We just compared the calibration data from my ZL to the current CTSV file and there are no secrets!

Howard

very interesting. Most likely why there is such a big variance on the net on what the CTSV people are dynoing at, and also why the tested trap speeds of the ZL1 havent been much better than the 2012 CTSV

[mikeyroche]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

I know it isn't but it's basically based off of it... Lol

No, you could say it has a LSA engine. A LS9 is a step or 2 above and another 15-20k

[Drake Heminger]

Originally Posted by mikeyroche

No, you could say it has a LSA engine. A LS9 is a step or 2 above and another 15-20k

I jsut know alot of people dont know what an LSA is and if i said LS9 they would be more intune with what it is and capable of... i know its not an LS9...

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

I jsut know alot of people dont know what an LSA is and if i said LS9 they would be more intune with what it is and capable of... i know its not an LS9...

ANyone who knows what an LS9 is should already automatically know what an LSA is. If they dont know what an LSA is, they most likely never heard of an LS9 anyways, thus not needing to lie about it being an LS9

[Drake Heminger]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

ANyone who knows what an LS9 is should already automatically know what an LSA is. If they dont know what an LSA is, they most likely never heard of an LS9 anyways, thus not needing to lie about it being an LS9

i had no intentions of cloaking it as an ls9 i just want to refer it to it... as in have u heard of the zr1? it has an ls9 and its kinda like it... was all i was trying to get out of the thread...

[VenomInside]

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Drake... you never cease to amaze me bud.


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[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

i had no intentions of cloaking it as an ls9 i just want to refer it to it... as in have u heard of the zr1? it has an ls9 and its kinda like it... was all i was trying to get out of the thread...

That makes everything a bit more clear. I'd say you're good to go from this perspective. It IS kind of like the LS9. But go ahead and introduce everyone to the LSA while you're at it!

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

i had no intentions of cloaking it as an ls9 i just want to refer it to it... as in have u heard of the zr1? it has an ls9 and its kinda like it... was all i was trying to get out of the thread...

oh i see. Well, talking about the ZR1 to somebody that might not know much about it could just be opening a whole other can of worms. It might be easier to say its similar to the regular SS v8 engine, but with a supercharger on it!!

[hognutz]

I find it easier to say it has the motor from a ctsv.

Two main reasons.

1. Because it does really.
2. Any real car enthusiast knows what the cts-v is.

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

It's just a designation.

This is the LS-series of V8 Engines from GM. They all are named LS-something.

1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 & 9 are all taken...I don't know why they chose to avoid 5 and 8...but A it is!

Actually they do have an LS-5. It's a 454 big block that was introduced in the 70 Chevelle.

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The engines can be mechanically identical, but there is more that goes into the SAE rating than the engine itself. The accessories, the intake setup, and the exhaust flow are all taken into account. The Camaro LSA features electric power steering (which saves a few horse power), the bi-modal exhaust (which frees up a few more), and possibly has a few more freed up in the intake and/or in the rest of the exhaust. Thats why it makes more advertised power than the CTS-V. Now, what you're saying could be true and the 2012 CTS-Vs may indeed be more powerful but unless it features all the same changes as are found in the ZL1 variant, it won't be 14 hp

The gain is 24hp not 14hp

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

Actually they do have an LS-5. It's a 454 big block that was introduced in the 70 chevrolet

yeah but oddly enough there was also an ls6 454 and then the newer ls6. They may have Also reused ls3 and 1 as well but I think those were 396 or 402 motors. Can't remember for sure the specs on those.

[Drake Heminger]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

That makes everything a bit more clear. I'd say you're good to go from this perspective. It IS kind of like the LS9. But go ahead and introduce everyone to the LSA while you're at it!

Thanks man!

[snapp32e]

So out of curiosity, would components between the LS9 and LSA be interchangeable to some degrees? Say one wanted to go to the 2300 TVS and the LS9 cam. Would this be possible?