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Urthman · 09-14-2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

Ah, another tidbit coming straight from the horse's mouth.

Bob Boniface, a head designer at GM involved with Camaro, shared a tidbit about production details at the Camaro Superfest earlier this month:

October 2008 is the month when approximately 30 Camaros will first roll off the assembly line, and in the following months they will continue to ramp up production until the January 2009 release.
Although engine sizes are a secret, tenatively there are three engines set to be in the lineup for the initial release: 2 V6s and 1 V8.
Horsepower numbers are not known.

October 2008!
And so the countdown begins!

Please keep in mind that this was NOT a press release, nor any kind of official word from GM.
Just a couple tidbits passed along by a designer on the project.

Where did this come from?

Dark Knight · 09-14-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SoFlaZ

I still think there is going to be 2 V8's, because it says there will be 2 V6's and 1 V8 on INITIAL release. The way I understand it there will be another V8 later on

(with plenty more hp I hope)

And THAT'S the one i'm waiting on!

Don't matter if it's 2010 or 2011 i will have me one no matter what.

One thing that makes me wonder though...if there is only gonna be 2 v6 and 1 v8 will that 1 v8 look exactly like the concept? If anyone remembers that one interview with Lutz he told the interviewer "right now your looking at what would be the top of the line Camaro".

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-14-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

And THAT'S the one i'm waiting on!

Don't matter if it's 2010 or 2011 i will have me one no matter what.

One thing that makes me wonder though...if there is only gonna be 2 v6 and 1 v8 will that 1 v8 look exactly like the concept? If anyone remembers that one interview with Lutz he told the interviewer "right now your looking at what would be the top of the line Camaro".

I do remember that....

My thoughts? I think the initial release V8 will be the top-of-the-line mainstream Camaro(which'll look like the concept)...then they'll make a GT500 killer, with a Super-Hi-Po V8, which'll be all tricked out, with intakes, and better this, better that

I'm now, really interested in seeing what a flat-roofed 5th gen will look like (the V6's)...

JeepinMatt · 09-14-2007, 09:43 PM

I think I'm going to try and pick up an LS3 powered one slightly used, with only 5k or so miles on it.

night_kidd · 09-14-2007, 10:39 PM

it doesn't make sense to make just 1 v8. That is so stupid, there should be a lower end v8 and a high end v8. I think they are bluffing. There has to be a 2nd v8 model or at least come out with a supercharged model or something.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-14-2007, 10:58 PM

...mmmm, I don't know. It definitely makes a lot of sense to have only one V8. I still think there will be two, but it's financially smart to offer only 1...reduce costs of producing more than one V8 in smaller numbers, than the cheaper method of having 1 large-scale V8...

this is an old post...but still, who better to know, than the almighty Fbodfather?

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Originally Posted by Fbodfather

BUT....one of the arguments I hear is to have a midrange V8 for lower insurance costs......AIN'T gonna happen (lower insurance rates, that is.........) Furthermore....300hp......or more in a midrange V8...guaranteed higher insurance rates......

I'm confident you'll see three engines....but for reasons other than written here.

(sitting back...stirring pot....................)

Which of cousre, he follows up in typical Fbodfather fashion with this...

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

...there very well could be a midrange V8...but a midrange V8 in the 300 plus horsepower range is NOT gonna get you cheaper insurance rates........don't believe me? Go do some insurance quotes out there............

*CamaroSpike23* · 09-15-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

...mmmm, I don't know. It definitely makes a lot of sense to have only one V8. I still think there will be two, but it's financially smart to offer only 1...reduce costs of producing more than one V8 in smaller numbers, than the cheaper method of having 1 large-scale V8...

this is an old post...but still, who better to know, than the almighty Fbodfather?

Which of cousre, he follows up in typical Fbodfather fashion with this...

what do you do with your life....? lol just messin thanks for postin that up from the fbodfather.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-15-2007, 01:04 AM

it's 2Am on a Saturday...I do nothing. I do not sleep...much.

I could always not post these things...

Trust me, once school starts picking up, and my new job starts, you'll be seeing much less of me...

*CamaroSpike23* · 09-15-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

it's 2Am on a Saturday...I do nothing. I do not sleep...much.

I could always not post these things...

Trust me, once school starts picking up, and my new job starts, you'll be seeing much less of me...

so you are saying I need to send you some more stuff to p/s before that time?

SSFreak11 · 09-15-2007, 01:19 AM

Here's my $0.02...Having a midrange V-8 would most likely only benefit in the means of gas mileage. The insurance between a 370ish hp V-8 and a 430ish hp V-8 would not differ very much at all. Like Drangon said, it would be cheaper to just have one V-8 with a decent amount of power rather than two. Just think about it, you have your economy V-6 for those who could care less about the performance of the car. You have the HiPo V-6 for those who want good performance and cheaper insurance/better fuel economy and then the 4XXhp V-8 for the for people who want a BADA$$ ride and don't mind the extra expenses that come with owning a muscle car.

Rock36 · 09-15-2007, 03:06 AM

I thought another source on this site said there would not be three engines? Maybe two, maybe four, but not three....I don't know.

Either way I don't have any problem with only one V8, I kind of like the idea actually. If there is a HIPO V6 putting out 300-320hp then that is just fine with me. We already know GM makes such an engine.

Punk_rider · 09-15-2007, 05:39 AM

well ... "not official GM words" ... I personally hardly believe the guy said something that wasn't into GM official communication plan ...

Cdn Camaroman · 09-15-2007, 06:53 AM

2 different V6's ? I don't remember the last time we could choose from kinda slow....to real slow,the early 3rd gens with 4 cyl,optional V6 etc..that doesn't sound right,1 Base V6 and then 2 kinds of V8 was the general plan..more motor options means bigger prices..my 2 cents

night_kidd · 09-15-2007, 12:37 PM

Ok I guess having 2 v8s would not be a financially smart way to go, but at least offer a supercharged version... something to compete with the gt500. The way I think of it the v8s shouldn't be as bad with gas because based on what I've read it has the engine management system which allows you to shutdown 4 pistons. I'm not entirely sure if you can shut it down with a press of a button but hey thats awesome if that is ever possible. I'm just really looking for something with more horses.

09-15-2007, 01:04 AM	#22
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	it's 2Am on a Saturday...I do nothing. I do not sleep...much. I could always not post these things... Trust me, once school starts picking up, and my new job starts, you'll be seeing much less of me... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

09-15-2007, 01:19 AM	#24
SSFreak11 Drives: 2005 Dodge Ram Hemi Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 112 View My Garage	Here's my $0.02...Having a midrange V-8 would most likely only benefit in the means of gas mileage. The insurance between a 370ish hp V-8 and a 430ish hp V-8 would not differ very much at all. Like Drangon said, it would be cheaper to just have one V-8 with a decent amount of power rather than two. Just think about it, you have your economy V-6 for those who could care less about the performance of the car. You have the HiPo V-6 for those who want good performance and cheaper insurance/better fuel economy and then the 4XXhp V-8 for the for people who want a BADA$$ ride and don't mind the extra expenses that come with owning a muscle car. __________________

09-15-2007, 03:06 AM	#25
Rock36 I just like V8s Drives: 2007 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 919	I thought another source on this site said there would not be three engines? Maybe two, maybe four, but not three....I don't know. Either way I don't have any problem with only one V8, I kind of like the idea actually. If there is a HIPO V6 putting out 300-320hp then that is just fine with me. We already know GM makes such an engine. __________________ "Anyone know who sells the driver mods?" 2007 Corvette Z06: Le Mans blue, 2LZ

09-15-2007, 06:53 AM	#27
Cdn Camaroman Drives: 4 Camaros Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 79 View My Garage	2 different V6's ? I don't remember the last time we could choose from kinda slow....to real slow,the early 3rd gens with 4 cyl,optional V6 etc..that doesn't sound right,1 Base V6 and then 2 kinds of V8 was the general plan..more motor options means bigger prices..my 2 cents __________________ 1969 Z/28 clone 1976 Bumblebee 1992 IROC convertible 1996 Z28 SS # 004

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