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*Camaro_Corvette* · 12-03-2008, 03:00 PM

^Thats it.

Dylan · 12-03-2008, 07:27 PM

6 indeed my friends. that was a week and a half ago. maybe its a bit more right now. They are building captured fleet pilot cars right now, so its prob more than 6. ill find out

fad1 · 12-03-2008, 07:55 PM

Very nice, now all we need is the assurance that GM will be around to sell the car and we are all set.

CWI · 12-03-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

We have 2 members here that work at the plant and have confirmed this info.

Thank you. I do remember something about it a while back but wasn't sure how reliable the info was. So are these cars going to be on dealer lots? I also read somewhere on here some time ago that the factory could start building inventory cars by December. This is December. Does that mean Feb 16 is just the beginning of building our sold orders? I'm just not real clear on what this all means.
All these other builds are irrelivent to me other. than the fact that the more they build means the more they get to work out the bugs and train the people on the line. That would lead to a better product by the time they do build our orders. So will the cars being built now end up on the market, or do they go back and get destroyed with the IVERS?

*GTAHVIT* · 12-03-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Thank you. I do remember something about it a while back but wasn't sure how reliable the info was. So are these cars going to be on dealer lots?

No, I believe the term is captive test fleet. Meaning they are production intent cars that are being tested by GM folks.

I also read somewhere on here some time ago that the factory could start building inventory cars by December. This is December. Does that mean Feb 16 is just the beginning of building our sold orders? I'm just not real clear on what this all means.

As of right now official production for saleable cars begins in Feb. The cars I mentioned above are being built now in the factory.

All these other builds are irrelivent to me other. than the fact that the more they build means the more they get to work out the bugs and train the people on the line. That would lead to a better product by the time they do build our orders. So will the cars being built now end up on the market, or do they go back and get destroyed with the IVERS?

I don't remember what happens to the "shakedown" cars. I want to say they are made available to GM employees for purchase?

My comments in bold.

The_Stache · 12-03-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Thank you. I do remember something about it a while back but wasn't sure how reliable the info was. So are these cars going to be on dealer lots? I also read somewhere on here some time ago that the factory could start building inventory cars by December. This is December. Does that mean Feb 16 is just the beginning of building our sold orders? I'm just not real clear on what this all means.
All these other builds are irrelivent to me other. than the fact that the more they build means the more they get to work out the bugs and train the people on the line. That would lead to a better product by the time they do build our orders. So will the cars being built now end up on the market, or do they go back and get destroyed with the IVERS?

The cars being built now will end up being sold as used cars after some refurb work. Until then they are test fleet cars for executives, vips, and reviewers.

Hylton · 12-04-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by diarmadhi

The cars being built now will end up being sold as used cars after some refurb work. Until then they are test fleet cars for executives, vips, and reviewers.

Actually, they will all be destroyed.

Mr_Draco · 12-04-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

Actually, they will all be destroyed.

The current cars being built can not be sold, not even as used cars, for legal and insurance reasons. It would make sense to dismantle and reuse any non-mechanical parts on production cars but they aren't even allowed to do this.

UCF w00t · 12-04-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

The current cars being built can not be sold, not even as used cars, for legal and insurance reasons. It would make sense to dismantle and reuse any non-mechanical parts on production cars but they aren't even allowed to do this.

Assuming that Dylan is not mistaken and these are, in fact, the "captive test fleet" cars... from another thread...

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Captive Test Fleet cars are 'saleable' cars-- meaning that while they will have retro-fits done on them -- they'll eventually be sold as used vehicles.

BLACK67 · 12-04-2008, 09:13 AM

A birdie told me #35 was going for crash test 2 weeks ago.

Hylton · 12-04-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK67

A birdie told me #35 was going for crash test 2 weeks ago.

I expect a few to be going down that road.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 12-04-2008, 09:21 AM

:(

TomServo · 12-04-2008, 09:31 AM

Question, given GM's current financial condition and "just in time" lean logistics, does anyone know how many Camaro's they can build with the parts/components ON HAND??

I'm guessing many suppliers may start asking for COD prior to shipping parts/components.

Any thoughts on how suppliers will react should GM file Chap 11 in the short term – say 30 to 60 days after??

Sizzox · 12-04-2008, 09:44 AM

Cant all the cars they are making now be sent out for aftermarket companies to use to make their parts?

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12-03-2008, 07:27 PM	#16
Dylan Drives: Pontiac Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 156	6 indeed my friends. that was a week and a half ago. maybe its a bit more right now. They are building captured fleet pilot cars right now, so its prob more than 6. ill find out

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