[libertyforall]

Track Addict fits the bill well, which is what I use, if only the iOS version had CarPlay to show on the car screen!

I want integration of 3rd party apps along with in-car manufacturer-provided PDR hardware...

Originally Posted by detltu

There are some PDR apps out there. I have Harry's lap timer. There are also some pretty expensive devices out there. Having it integrated into the car would be really nice though. Definitely something I want on my 6th gen and I'm excited to see it on the 1LE.

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by titanfan

But you said you were sure it was the wheels that put the GT350R half a second ahead of the z/28, so you had to be referring directly to the GT350R. Motor Trend chose the track. And that price for the carbon fiber wheels cost you posted has been refuted multiple times as being over-inflated. But then, have you priced carbon-ceramic brakes like what GM put on the z/28? Not exactly cheap.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...ont-cost-30000

Look, I don't want to derail the thread with another z/28 vs GT350R discussion. The SS with the 1LE option is going to be a strong performer and could very well run with or beat a base GT350 and maybe even a GT350 w/track pack.

It's the people who paid $75K + ( or more) for a z/28 just a year or two that I feel sad for if the 6thGen SS w/1LE is anywhere close to its lap times.

It won't run with a gt350


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[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by Memphis43

It won't run with a gt350


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Yeah, it will. Base GT350 isn't something way out there extraordinary.. And GM has been doing better as far as handling goes.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Memphis43

It won't run with a gt350


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Oh yes it will. The freaking regular SS nearly can on crap run flats.

I predict it will beat the base GT350, and be pretty close, possibly on par with the GT350 track pack...for way less money.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

Doubtful...as sales have been brisk, when dealers actually have them. My dealer can't keep his in stock even at MRSP, and other dealers can't get more then one or two, even when they want more...which hurts sales. Plus, the 4 banger isn't out, neither is the convertible, and they haven't started fleet sales yet. No way will the price go down...

This was a point that they brought up at the preview: Apparently, although Mustang outsold the Camaro last month, the Camaro is the faster selling car (meaning it's on showroom floors for a shorter amount of time)

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Will all the black seats have the white stripe insert?

Yes.

Originally Posted by 08z51c6

Didn't see it mentioned but how many SS 1LE's is GM intending to produce? Is this a limited production number or will they make as many as people will buy?

Not limited...no reason to, ruins the fun!

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

Oh yes it will. The freaking regular SS nearly can on crap run flats.

I predict it will beat the base GT350, and be pretty close, possibly on par with the GT350 track pack...for way less money.

I think the SS will be able to hang on certain tracks but I'm not going to say it will outrun it. I would like to see an SS run against the GT350, but I doubt it will happen. The standard instrumented tests don't always correlate to track performance. Just look at the Z06 vs ACR. Both were very close during the instrumented tests, but the ACR destroyed the Z06 on the track.

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I think the SS will be able to hang on certain tracks but I'm not going to say it will outrun it. I would like to see an SS run against the GT350, but I doubt it will happen. The standard instrumented tests don't always correlate to track performance. Just look at the Z06 vs ACR. Both were very close during the instrumented tests, but the ACR destroyed the Z06 on the track.

Exactly. It's a whole different ball game as I stated in the last thread.

It will be on par with the last ten Camaro zl1 though


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[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Memphis43

Exactly. It's a whole different ball game as I stated in the last thread.

It will be on par with the last ten Camaro zl1 though


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I'm not talking about the 1LE, I mean the base SS.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by titanfan

Half a second faster? How about over a full second faster:

"At Chuckwalla Valley Raceway, the Z/28 laid down a fast lap of 1:59.03. The GT350R: 1:57.87. — Randy Pobst"


That's because it is simply an option package, not a trim level.

Wasn't the Z/28 used in the above comparison the same Z/28 that Motor Trend staff had been beating on for 6+ months as a long term road test vehicle, you don't think this vehicle had been beaten on repeatedly by all staff members? Was it operating at 100%?

[Optimus Prime]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Wasn't the Z/28 used in the above comparison the same Z/28 that Motor Trend staff had been beating on for 6+ months as a long term road test vehicle, you don't think this vehicle had been beaten on repeatedly by all staff members? Was it operating at 100%?

Yeah, they pretty much said it was their sendoff of the car. That shouldn't matter too much, unless the tires were in bad shape. That Z was designed to take a beating.

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[titanfan]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Wasn't the Z/28 used in the above comparison the same Z/28 that Motor Trend staff had been beating on for 6+ months as a long term road test vehicle, you don't think this vehicle had been beaten on repeatedly by all staff members? Was it operating at 100%?

How would I know? If it was, one could just as easily argue that the z/28 was broken in while the GT350 was not. Did that make the times closer than they might have otherwise been? Most cars actually perform better after putting miles on them, not worse.

That's the problem with these head-to-head tests; there is always information you are not privy to. They are done for entertainment purposes, for the most part, which is why I never put much stock into the outcomes. It may very well be that 9 out of 10 times the z/28 beats the GT350R around a track, but in this particular case, that was not the result. i don't understand why the result can't just be accepted for what it was without trying to come up with conspiracy theories as to why it happened.

[kingbambino22]

Chevy needs to make an 1LE 2.0T version

[newmoon]

[QUOTE=titanfan;8898930]How would I know? If it was, one could just as easily argue that the z/28 was broken in while the GT350 was not. Did that make the times closer than they might have otherwise been? Most cars actually perform better after putting miles on them, not worse.

That's the problem with these head-to-head tests; there is always information you are not privy to. They are done for entertainment purposes, for the most part, which is why I never put much stock into the outcomes. It may very well be that 9 out of 10 times the z/28 beats the GT350R around a track, but in this particular case, that was not the result. i don't understand why the result can't just me accepted for what it was without trying to come up with conspiracy theories as to why it happened.[/QUOTE

[chain777]

I think this car is going to be pretty amazing, considering what they accomplished with the last one. But I think some of you have forgotten that this is a 1LE package, not a Zxx replacement. Do you really think this car is going to destroy a Z/28? Because in effect that's what your saying by implying it's going to keep up with a GT350, that already beats a Z/28. Think about that.