Road and Track: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - First Look

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by thePill

I'll work on it bud when I get home.

No need to, I did this a few days ago but never got around to posting it....

I think it looks SOOOO much better...

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

Yup, it just doesn't fit the rest of the car .... just looks like it's coming directly from another car (yes, a Spark ...)...

Besides, I find it sad when brands with history like Chevy, having all the weight of american cars history, just ... copy european cars ...

Benchmarking BMW or Audi shouldn"t mean copying 'em ...

I....don't see any copying. The flat-bottom steering wheel is a good design, and I'm glad they used it!

As far as the center and controls resembling the corporate wheel...I've used that wheel in the Equinox - and let me tell ya': those controls are VERY comfortable to use...combined with the smaller, thicker flat-bottom wheel, I'm REALLY looking forward to this steering wheel.

[PonyCrusher]

what part of the dash will the shift light be located? thats a cool addition I wish the ss would have that available. although i still cant get over how much I hate that steering wheel. it looks like the stole it from a cobalt

[Blackdevil77]

Check out these performance specs on this camaro. The power is very close to the ZL1, probably a bit more, weight is around what you guys are estimating, performance numbers are basically identical to the 2011 GT500. I sure hope the ZL1 performs better then this.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/specs.html

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by PonyCrusher

what part of the dash will the shift light be located? thats a cool addition I wish the ss would have that available. although i still cant get over how much I hate that steering wheel. it looks like the stole it from a cobalt

And there is no shift light...that I've heard of.

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Check out these performance specs on this camaro. The power is very close to the ZL1, probably a bit more, weight is around what you guys are estimating, performance numbers are basically identical to the 2011 GT500. I sure hope the ZL1 performs better then this.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/specs.html

The Hurst Camaro is a nice package -- but it's no ZL1.

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

No need to, I did this a few days ago but never got around to posting it....

I think it looks SOOOO much better...
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I....don't see any copying. The flat-bottom steering wheel is a good design, and I'm glad they used it!

As far as the center and controls resembling the corporate wheel...I've used that wheel in the Equinox - and let me tell ya': those controls are VERY comfortable to use...combined with the smaller, thicker flat-bottom wheel, I'm REALLY looking forward to this steering wheel.

That looks so much better.
I also wouldn't mind losing a ZL1 badge or two.....

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

And there is no shift light...that I've heard of.


The Hurst Camaro is a nice package -- but it's no ZL1.

As far as straight line acceleration, all the other numbers seem to be close with the ZL1. The weight, (estimated) the 11 inch rear wheels, forged aluminum wheels, power, etc. I was hoping for high 11's closer to 120mph

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

As far as straight line acceleration, all the other numbers seem to be close with the ZL1. The weight, (estimated) the 11 inch rear wheels, forged aluminum wheels, power, etc. I was hoping for high 11's closer to 120mph

Like I said...it's just not a ZL1. There's a lot of engineering work that's going into it that aftermarket companies (while very impressive) just can't do. Chevy has access to data and resources only the 'creator' has available to them...

The Hurst is very impressive....I guess what I'm saying is the ZL1 is going to be more impressive...much more.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Like I said...it's just not a ZL1. There's a lot of engineering work that's going into it that aftermarket companies (while very impressive) just can't do. Chevy has access to data and resources only the 'creator' has available to them...

The Hurst is very impressive....I guess what I'm saying is the ZL1 is going to be more impressive...much more.

I guess we can't do much but to wait and see. I'm so impatient lol.

[Shurenuff]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

That looks so much better.
I also wouldn't mind losing a ZL1 badge or two.....

and

Although I'm not as against the bowtie as most, I have to admit that the chop Dragoneye did with the word Camaro on the steering wheel looks best.

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this vehicle is over badged. I know some people love having badges everywhere, but there will be some debadging going on with my ZL1. I prefer the cleaner look of minimal exterior badges. But, it's nothing to complain about though since it'll be such an easy fix.

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

No need to, I did this a few days ago but never got around to posting it....

I think it looks SOOOO much better...
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Dragoneye, that looks so much better with the Camaro lettering in the center than the bowtie.

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by SSmoked

only 13?? lol try 17 lol. 1 engraving on each rim(4 total), 1 sticker on each 6pot brembo(2 total), emblem on the grill(1), emblem on the rear deck lid(1), 2 on the hood(2), 1 emblem on the steering wheel(1), 1 on each side of the cars step plate(2), engraving on the shift knob(1), on the plastic trim passanger side(1), 1 on each head rest (2).
yea at this point im happy with the bowtie.

SSmoked, thanks for a far more accurate recount of ZL1 badging. I missed a bunch of them that you listed. It now works out to about $3,000.00 per badge down from $7,500.00 p/badge. Look a discount already and a 550HP car too. Life just does not get any better !!!

[shevyman]

that is sexy. i am loving the interior. i so want the interior of that in my car and the tac.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Check out these performance specs on this camaro. The power is very close to the ZL1, probably a bit more, weight is around what you guys are estimating, performance numbers are basically identical to the 2011 GT500. I sure hope the ZL1 performs better then this.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/specs.html

I think it's reasonable to suggest the zL1 will put down similar straight line numbers to the hurst even though I have a feeling the z might be a tad heavier I'm sure we'll know soon enough

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

That looks so much better.
I also wouldn't mind losing a ZL1 badge or two.....

Originally Posted by Shurenuff

and

Although I'm not as against the bowtie as most, I have to admit that the chop Dragoneye did with the word Camaro on the steering wheel looks best.

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Dragoneye, that looks so much better with the Camaro lettering in the center than the bowtie.

Thanks, guys!!

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

I think it's reasonable to suggest the zL1 will put down similar straight line numbers to the hurst even though I have a feeling the z might be a tad heavier I'm sure we'll know soon enough

Those Hurst numbers are a tick slower than some CTS-V results. I've read as low as 12.2 for the Caddy....now figure the ZL1 will have a slightly more free-breathing engine, wider tires, lighter weight, and now apparently it's getting GM's premier performance traction control system...