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obe1 · 01-06-2010, 02:49 PM

Lowered my SS this past Saturday using the Pfadt springs with 1.25" drop. I had the car aligned yesterday and asked the shop to set front camber at -0.8 and rear at -0.6. The front was no issue but the rear adjustment maxed out at -0.9. Has anybody else had an issue getting the rear camber adjusted?

Bruce@raymondsperformance · 01-06-2010, 05:59 PM

That is a problem on the camaro, the lower it goes the more adjustment it needs.Pedders makes a cam kit that helps get more adjustment.If needed pm me we have them in stock.

obe1 · 01-06-2010, 11:43 PM

Thanks Raymo1. I'm going to watch my tire wear and if becomes an issue I'll pick up the adjustment bolts.

toehead93 · 01-07-2010, 12:04 PM

I thought the camber kit was only needed if you drop over 1.25. I didn't think it was an issue with a 1.25 drop.

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 01-08-2010, 06:29 PM

It is an issue with any drop. I have seen
Camaros only able to get -1.3 degrees as the lowest negative cambers.

mike
dms

caverman · 01-08-2010, 06:34 PM

If lowered....does is need to be adjusted to -0.8 and -.06? Is there any issue with it being set at the max of -0.9?

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 01-08-2010, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caverman

If lowered....does is need to be adjusted to -0.8 and -.06? Is there any issue with it being set at the max of -0.9?

With only drop coils or coil overs, we have found by testing, the best handling can be obtained by putting the front cambers to -1.0 and he rears to -.5. This seriously helps the understeer concerns.

Plus adding more front caster is a big help as well.

mike
dms

axis · 01-09-2010, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dms

With only drop coils or coil overs, we have found by testing, the best handling can be obtained by putting the front cambers to -1.0 and he rears to -.5. This seriously helps the understeer concerns.

Plus adding more front caster is a big help as well.

mike
dms

What does that do to tire wear?

Cruz-lo · 01-09-2010, 08:46 AM

I had the same issue. In fact even with the pedders alignment kit I could only get - 1 degree or so.

I ground out the toe and camber slots to get that last little bit. Then I sectioned my BMR lowers to pull the camber in more.
Now its OK! I can get to about - .3 if I need to.

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 01-09-2010, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruz-lo

I had the same issue. In fact even with the pedders alignment kit I could only get - 1 degree or so.

I ground out the toe and camber slots to get that last little bit. Then I sectioned my BMR lowers to pull the camber in more.
Now its OK! I can get to about - .3 if I need to.

We have NEVER had an issue getting cambers more positive than -.5 with our Pedders eccentrics. I have been involved with quite a few installs. I was unaware of length variations with the BMR units.

How low did you drop your rear and what else have you done to the suspension upgrades? If you lok at the WD40 Camaro, we dropped the back end over 2 inches, and could have set the rear cambers to 0.

One last note is that the trailing arm really does not have much influence on camber. Toe definetly, but not camber

mike
dms

Gotthat02fire · 01-09-2010, 05:44 PM

DMS so you reccomend the alingment kit with your spring and coilover kits??????

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 01-09-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gotthat02fire

DMS so you reccomend the alingment kit with your spring and coilover kits??????

Yes I do. With the exception of our coil spring drop kits, all other lowering kits include the adjusters

mike

dms

Gotthat02fire · 01-09-2010, 05:52 PM

Thanks for the info Mike nice to have vendors that take care of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bpoirier · 01-09-2010, 07:09 PM

dms,
I am about to install 1" drop springs. What are the alignment specs for the whole car I need to give to my alignment guy. I only street drive my car if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance.

01-06-2010, 02:49 PM	#1
obe1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 IOM, 1995 Blown Z28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 237	Lowering Alignment Issue Lowered my SS this past Saturday using the Pfadt springs with 1.25" drop. I had the car aligned yesterday and asked the shop to set front camber at -0.8 and rear at -0.6. The front was no issue but the rear adjustment maxed out at -0.9. Has anybody else had an issue getting the rear camber adjusted? __________________ 2010 2SS RS M6 Inferno Orange Metallic 1995 Z28 - blown, intercooled and nitrous injected - Sold 1968 Camaro - Sold 2019 Corvette Grand Sport

01-06-2010, 11:43 PM	#3
obe1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 IOM, 1995 Blown Z28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 237	Thanks Raymo1. I'm going to watch my tire wear and if becomes an issue I'll pick up the adjustment bolts. __________________ 2010 2SS RS M6 Inferno Orange Metallic 1995 Z28 - blown, intercooled and nitrous injected - Sold 1968 Camaro - Sold 2019 Corvette Grand Sport

01-07-2010, 12:04 PM	#4
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	I thought the camber kit was only needed if you drop over 1.25. I didn't think it was an issue with a 1.25 drop. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

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01-06-2010, 05:59 PM	#2
Bruce@raymondsperformance Drives: 2014 Z28 camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 705	That is a problem on the camaro, the lower it goes the more adjustment it needs.Pedders makes a cam kit that helps get more adjustment.If needed pm me we have them in stock.

01-08-2010, 06:29 PM	#5
Info@PeddersUSA.com Drives: 5th Gen Rental Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New England Posts: 1,901	It is an issue with any drop. I have seen Camaros only able to get -1.3 degrees as the lowest negative cambers. mike dms

01-09-2010, 08:46 AM	#9
Cruz-lo Drives: 2010 2ss RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: N KY Posts: 119	I had the same issue. In fact even with the pedders alignment kit I could only get - 1 degree or so. I ground out the toe and camber slots to get that last little bit. Then I sectioned my BMR lowers to pull the camber in more. Now its OK! I can get to about - .3 if I need to.

01-09-2010, 05:44 PM	#11
Gotthat02fire Drives: 2010 Camaro 1ss IOM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Williamsport,PA Posts: 2,246 View My Garage	DMS so you reccomend the alingment kit with your spring and coilover kits??????

01-09-2010, 05:52 PM	#13
Gotthat02fire Drives: 2010 Camaro 1ss IOM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Williamsport,PA Posts: 2,246 View My Garage	Thanks for the info Mike nice to have vendors that take care of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-09-2010, 07:09 PM	#14
bpoirier Drives: 2SS/RS IOM CGM Stripes Join Date: May 2009 Location: Haughton, LA Posts: 931	dms, I am about to install 1" drop springs. What are the alignment specs for the whole car I need to give to my alignment guy. I only street drive my car if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance.