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Old 10-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #281
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Oh i was under the impression that Ford was going to release the new Italian designed Mustang in early 2010 as a 2010 model.
How weird would that be, a car company actually naming the car's year, the actual year it comes out....LOL. The Auto industry is funny sometimes.

So the new Mustang wont be around untill the 2012 car year then? Oh well. That gives the Camaro awhile to firmly establish its reputation.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:53 AM   #282
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2011 Mustang GT......

5.0L, DOHC, V8 producing at least 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque...
6-speed manual standard, 6-speed automatic standard....
SRA will carry over....
Expected weight ~3600lb for GT model well equipped....

How soon the 2011MY gets here will depend a great deal upon how soon Windsor finished it's 5.0L retool and ramp up, which is in progress as this is typed. The 2011MY wont start late, but it might start a little early. None of this is a guess....this is how it is going to happen.

Also worth mentioning, the Italians have nothing to do with the design of the 2010+ Mustang.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:54 AM   #283
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new powertrain 2011 or first half 2010. just goto mustangsource and read the 2010 section; i dont know where the 2012 number is coming from
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:42 AM   #284
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new powertrain 2011 or first half 2010. just goto mustangsource and read the 2010 section; i dont know where the 2012 number is coming from
Its comming from those in the "know" on mustangforums.com.. and they have been right so far..
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:38 PM   #285
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I'm actually looking forward to the eco-boost. A lot of the factory twin turbo engines produced to this point in time have been pretty damn nice or amazing (Grand National, Supra, 335i).
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:33 PM   #286
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Its comming from those in the "know" on mustangforums.com.. and they have been right so far..
those in the know and have been right are saying 2011 over at svtperformance and themustangsource. at least one has said job2 2010
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:49 PM   #287
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its all speculation.

no one really knows.


One point worth mentioning...


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2011 Mustang GT......

5.0L, DOHC, V8 producing at least 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque...
6-speed manual standard, 6-speed automatic standard....
SRA will carry over....
Expected weight ~3600lb for GT model well equipped....

How soon the 2011MY gets here will depend a great deal upon how soon Windsor finished it's 5.0L retool and ramp up, which is in progress as this is typed. The 2011MY wont start late, but it might start a little early. None of this is a guess....this is how it is going to happen.

Also worth mentioning, the Italians have nothing to do with the design of the 2010+ Mustang.

22 less hp, and 50lbs less torque... even the new mustang wont even be able to keep up with the Camaro. And god knows Ford doesnt sell anything with 400hp for less than 37k so expect it to be overpriced.
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:49 PM   #288
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if its lighter it will be faster in the quarter. 22 hp aint going to be enough to beat it on the strip but on the highway that camaro will inch away because of the torque. and you forget if they replace prod of the 3v 46 with the 4v 50 then they can sell it for less cuz that engine will be going into f150s and anyother car that needs a v8
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:50 PM   #289
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its all speculation.

no one really knows.
These are accurate minimum power ratings, not speculation.

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22 less hp, and 50lbs less torque... even the new mustang wont even be able to keep up with the Camaro.
I wouldn't bet on that. The above is a worst case power to weight scenario for the 2011 Mustang GT. Horsepower and torque will both be greater than the numbers quoted here, we just don't yet know by exactly how much although the numbers are getting clearer. I will say that some folks may be surprised by just how much greater hp and torque will chime in at than those minimum figures. And frankly, a minimum 300lb weight advantage isn't insignificant either and is worth about 25hp and 25lb-ft of torque or better all on it's own. 2011 is going to be an interesting model year.

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And god knows Ford doesn't sell anything with 400hp for less than 37k so expect it to be overpriced.
Ford could sell the 2011 Mustang GT for the same amount of money they sell the existing model for and still do very, very nicely in terms of profit. Ford has their fair share of profitability issues, but Mustang isn't one of them.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:04 PM   #290
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2010 ford mustang

what do u guys think of the 2010 ford mustang ?
I have a question. how come Ford doesn;t use a better V6 engine than their 210 hp 4.0 liter ? why not just 3.7 Duratec making over 272 hp ?or the 3.5 duratec ? alot of people are looking for v6 instead of v8 for gas prices but their v6 just sucks balls. challenger 3.5 is better. camaro 3.6 far more better
their 4.0 sucks.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:13 PM   #291
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its not all that different that the last few years, i prefer them to the 1970-2004 models tho. i'm not sure why they have that epic fail of a v6
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:16 PM   #292
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what do u guys think of the 2010 ford mustang ?
I have a question. how come Ford doesn;t use a better V6 engine than their 210 hp 4.0 liter ? why not just 3.7 Duratec making over 272 hp ?or the 3.5 duratec ? alot of people are looking for v6 instead of v8 for gas prices but their v6 just sucks balls. challenger 3.5 is better. camaro 3.6 far more better
their 4.0 sucks.
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Duratec V6/6-speed combo is coming for 2011, although details are a bit fuzzier than they are with the similarly revised 2011 GT, probably due to less interest in the base model. Both displacement and HP numbers are still up in the air, although we do know it will be more than the current 265hp the existing, fwd versions pump out. And while displacement isn't yet a sure thing, the 3.5L is expected to be the engine used here rather than the 3.7L Ford is supposedly trying to keep exclusive to Mazda and Lincoln.

Quick recap of what we know....

At least 265hp from either the 3.5L or 3.7L V6
6-speed auto and manual
Lower curb weight than current V6 model.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:22 PM   #293
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it will be lower def because the cologne is a heavy engine
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:35 PM   #294
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I'm not sure why they have that epic fail of a v6
Three reasons...it was cheap, available (in fact they needed an excuse to use excess production of the 4.0L) and they didn't really have any competition to worry about. Ironically the 4.0L is a great platform to build serious power on, unfortunately virtually nobody cared.
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