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goldwave84 · 01-28-2009, 10:50 AM

Well, I'm with you on this. Change is not always bad (unless you see the current WRX STI

) Maybe we could round up a few and start a petition of sorts? Just a thought. I mean, if Chevy does not listen to their customers, who would they listen to then eh?

wildpaws · 01-28-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by goldwave84

Well, I'm with you on this. Change is not always bad (unless you see the current WRX STI

) Maybe we could round up a few and start a petition of sorts? Just a thought. I mean, if Chevy does not listen to their customers, who would they listen to then eh?

More and more the auto manufacturers are being forced to listen to the government rather than listen to consumers, I only see that getting worse in the future as more and more government mandates are put into place.
Clyde

Blizzard · 01-28-2009, 01:08 PM

i would like to see a camaro using propane, its cheap and you can get a ton of speed with it.

PQ · 01-28-2009, 01:17 PM

My response is not so nuetral and un-biased. They have no choice but to comply with the standards and parameters set by the gov. But with so many different makes and models going 'Green' I don't see why you would neuter the muscle car. If you want to tax me, then tax me. If I have to sacrifice something else to keep my RWD and big HP then I can make that decision when the time comes. At least keep it available to me. The vast, vast majority of the cars on the road are not high big performance and will continue to go 'greener' so IMO leave my muscle alone.

Let Chevy build 'green' into other Chevy models.

mitchell87 · 01-28-2009, 01:22 PM

If the 4.5L Diesel does in fact make it into production like they say, I think it will find it's way into many cars and trucks across the GM line. Including CTS(sedan and wagon), Tahoe and Silverado(and their siblings) and maybe the camaro

Punk_rider · 01-28-2009, 02:28 PM

Looks like USA is the only country in the world where diesel is considered "green"!!! That's pretty funny!

Tal · 01-28-2009, 03:32 PM

Higher mpg's, and the possibilities of biodiesel puts it into the green category for many, unless they are the type to OCD about emissions.

zebra · 01-29-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Logansneo

How many Mustangs, Challengers, or Corvettes do you see focusing on drastic fuel saving techniques simply to appease those that would regularly be shopping for economy instead of performance?

When I see the Camaro, or any of these other cars I am not concerned with fuel economy. The entire reason they exist is to thrill the driver! Using newer technology to achieve amazing performance and increased driver enjoyment would be great. Neutering a great muscle car to make it green is not great!

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Originally Posted by goldwave84

1) Lightweight aluminum frames combined with their magnesium roof structure and engine cradle

that would significantly raise the price of the car.

2) Diesel engines

that would be awesome - better economy & ridiculous power potential

5) Gear shift indicators

i've got one of those on my 99 sierra. i find it pointless most of the time because i've been driving stick since i was 11... i know when to shift. for a green car nowadays, they'd have an automatic. it's much easier for the computer to control fuel management systems when it also controls the transmission. that's why the L99 is only available with the auto.

goldwave84 · 01-29-2009, 07:38 AM

irpq11- Just to be sure of the discussion here, I am keen on knowing why you see going green would neuter the muscle car?

You would not loose RWD and HP would only increase. What makes you think your muscle car would loose 'muscle' by going green?

Zebra- Computer controlled fuel management systems seem like a good idea.

*CamaroSpike23* · 01-29-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

huh...you don't wanna hear it, bud

...You'd have to read a book of a post. Then I'd get flamed, or "emotionally disagreed with". Because all fuel-efficiency and speed cannot exist together. And all performance as we know it is dying as we speak...apparently.

In short -- I believe without a doubt it can be done. Thinking otherwise is...well...it's short-sighted, sky-is-falling attitude. I don't pretend to know how, or through what method. But it's just a matter of time, at this point.

sorry dragon, but I gotta call

on that statement.... you can have fuel efficiency and speed/power. but it'll cost ya.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...e/4261712.html

goldwave84 · 01-29-2009, 08:27 AM

I like yr last quote. very true indeed.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-29-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

sorry dragon, but I gotta call

on that statement.... you can have fuel efficiency and speed/power. but it'll cost ya.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...e/4261712.html

Oh, I know it can!!...I was being sarcastic...apparently it didn't come off to well.

*CamaroSpike23* · 01-29-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Oh, I know it can!!...I was being sarcastic...apparently it didn't come off to well.

why is it that the times you are joking, i take you seriously.

but when ur serious, i think you are joking.

Caliman93230 · 01-29-2009, 02:09 PM

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01-28-2009, 01:08 PM	#17
Blizzard Searching for the truth Drives: 85 K-10, 13 1LE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 635 View My Garage	i would like to see a camaro using propane, its cheap and you can get a ton of speed with it. __________________ 2013 1LE 1SS RS TPW 4/29

01-28-2009, 01:17 PM	#18
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	My response is not so nuetral and un-biased. They have no choice but to comply with the standards and parameters set by the gov. But with so many different makes and models going 'Green' I don't see why you would neuter the muscle car. If you want to tax me, then tax me. If I have to sacrifice something else to keep my RWD and big HP then I can make that decision when the time comes. At least keep it available to me. The vast, vast majority of the cars on the road are not high big performance and will continue to go 'greener' so IMO leave my muscle alone. Let Chevy build 'green' into other Chevy models. __________________

01-28-2009, 02:28 PM	#20
Punk_rider Drives: VW Typ 166 + Black 1LE Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 763	Looks like USA is the only country in the world where diesel is considered "green"!!! That's pretty funny! __________________ I'm kindly asking: "May I have a supercharged Z28 with 550 hp please? By the end of 2009 would be awesome. Thanks"

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01-28-2009, 10:50 AM	#15
goldwave84 Drives: Proton Saga Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: KJ Posts: 26	Well, I'm with you on this. Change is not always bad (unless you see the current WRX STI ) Maybe we could round up a few and start a petition of sorts? Just a thought. I mean, if Chevy does not listen to their customers, who would they listen to then eh?

01-28-2009, 01:22 PM	#19
mitchell87 Drives: 2010 Silverado 6.2L Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bismrarck, ND Posts: 196	If the 4.5L Diesel does in fact make it into production like they say, I think it will find it's way into many cars and trucks across the GM line. Including CTS(sedan and wagon), Tahoe and Silverado(and their siblings) and maybe the camaro

01-28-2009, 03:32 PM	#21
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	Higher mpg's, and the possibilities of biodiesel puts it into the green category for many, unless they are the type to OCD about emissions.

01-29-2009, 07:38 AM	#23
goldwave84 Drives: Proton Saga Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: KJ Posts: 26	irpq11- Just to be sure of the discussion here, I am keen on knowing why you see going green would neuter the muscle car? You would not loose RWD and HP would only increase. What makes you think your muscle car would loose 'muscle' by going green? Zebra- Computer controlled fuel management systems seem like a good idea.

01-29-2009, 08:27 AM	#25
goldwave84 Drives: Proton Saga Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: KJ Posts: 26	I like yr last quote. very true indeed.

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