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Old 05-19-2014, 02:11 PM   #24319
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Good, lol. It is almost impossible to ride in a 3.91 gear swapped V6 Camaro and not have a smile curl up your face, but in a manual the 3.91's would make life... Difficult. And it's all good, we're all here to learn. I've learned more about cars in two years of Camaro5 (including my lurker phase) than I did the entire 26 years preceding it.

yeah these guys and gals here are great. I have learned so much.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:15 PM   #24320
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Can someone give me a crash course on gearing or point me to a thread? I feel stupid right now.
Old, but the best video ever made to explain a differential.



A very basic breakdown of how the gearing works:

The lower the ratio (but the higher the number) the faster your car will get up in speed. But, it won't have as high of a top speed.

The higher the ratio (but the lower the number) the slower your car will get up in speed. But, it will have a higher top speed.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:19 PM   #24321
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but in a manual the 3.91's would make life... Difficult.
Why say that? I would imagine they would just make first useless for a manual.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:19 PM   #24322
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Gears on a car, the lower the number, the higher the gear. So the 3.27 on the v6 is a high gear. Going to a lower gear increases the acceleration of the car. Think of a bicycle. If you go to a lower gear, you have to pedal faster to go the same distance. Difference being, with the v6 Camaro, the meat of the power is in the higher rpm range, so you want the car to "pedal" faster, or get it's rpm up faster.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:21 PM   #24323
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Gears on a car, the lower the number, the higher the gear. So the 3.27 on the v6 is a high gear. Going to a lower gear increases the acceleration of the car. Think of a bicycle. If you go to a lower gear, you have to pedal faster to go the same distance. Difference being, with the v6 Camaro, the meat of the power is in the higher rpm range, so you want the car to "pedal" faster, or get it's rpm up faster.
Therefore 3.27>2.92 making 2.92 gearing better.

I win

Just kidding, stupid 2LS....
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:22 PM   #24324
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Stalking much.

I just lol'ed at working thinking of me grabbing your ass. BTW, when will that SC be available?
Only when i have some free time at work... so yes all the time...

The S/C... not sure... when can i afford a built LSX427 and a TT setup...

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Mike, did you see what I ran on Friday night? I am so proud of myself.
Was that in Jewel? That was a much better time than what you were getting before.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:25 PM   #24325
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Old, but the best video ever made to explain a differential.



A very basic breakdown of how the gearing works:

The lower the ratio (but the higher the number) the faster your car will get up in speed. But, it won't have as high of a top speed.

The higher the ratio (but the lower the number) the slower your car will get up in speed. But, it will have a higher top speed.

Wow thanks. That was good video.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:28 PM   #24326
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Gears on a car, the lower the number, the higher the gear. So the 3.27 on the v6 is a high gear. Going to a lower gear increases the acceleration of the car. Think of a bicycle. If you go to a lower gear, you have to pedal faster to go the same distance. Difference being, with the v6 Camaro, the meat of the power is in the higher rpm range, so you want the car to "pedal" faster, or get it's rpm up faster.
Thank you. So is it kind of like a preference?

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Only when i have some free time at work... so yes all the time...

The S/C... not sure... when can i afford a built LSX427 and a TT setup...



Was that in Jewel? That was a much better time than what you were getting before.
No rush on the SC


Yeah that was in Jewel and corrected that is a much better time.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:31 PM   #24327
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Yeah, picking what gear you want will be partly preference. You don't want to go too low, or you'll lose top end speed. However, with nitrous, you really don't need to worry about gearing. Lol. 3.73 is about as low as I'd want to go with any FI on the v6 Camaro. And as stated, 3.91 is good for the autos. Don't have to worry about shifting.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:34 PM   #24328
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I mean, the 1LE come with 3.91, so if I were to go NA, that's what I would use
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Yeah, picking what gear you want will be partly preference. You don't want to go too low, or you'll lose top end speed. However, with nitrous, you really don't need to worry about gearing. Lol. 3.73 is about as low as I'd want to go with any FI on the v6 Camaro. And as stated, 3.91 is good for the autos. Don't have to worry about shifting.

So what will we go with?
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:38 PM   #24330
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Why say that? I would imagine they would just make first useless for a manual.
1st gear lasts all of a tenth of a second at wot. And second isn't that much better. For day to day driving in a city environment it would be fine. In a 1/4 though, you'd spend more time pushing the clutch than the gas.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:39 PM   #24331
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Something like this?? Haha, jk

Best of luck with that though. You'd be saving a lot of people a LOT of money.
Hopefully something a little more sophisticated than that

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I think this would be a good idea for the v6's that don't want to get a lot of power, but for those that do, don't they need a new rear? As the v6 auto has a smaller/weaker rear than the manual v6 and SS? Would think it would just be easier to switch rears ends that already has posi and better gearing.
That's a tough question... I haven't done much research yet, but I can't recall seeing anyone that's ever broken an a6 v6 axle? I think most people swap rear ends because "they think they have to", or because they want to run a 3.73, or 3.91 gear... It's quite a bit of work to swap out the rear end, not to mention expensive to swap out all of the parts. Rough guess, $1200-1800 bucks not counting labor if you can't do it yourself.

You can probably swap posi/locker guts into your current carrier while it's still in the car if I can come up with something. For about 1/3 the cost of a rear end swap or less.

The Auto, and lack of bottom end torque the v6 has would probably be pretty easy on parts. I question weather a diff swap is really necessary, unless you're just doing it for the ratio selection or you have north of 400hp to the wheels.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:45 PM   #24332
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So what will we go with?

If we did swap out rears, I'd like to find one with 3.73.

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Hopefully something a little more sophisticated than that







That's a tough question... I haven't done much research yet, but I can't recall seeing anyone that's ever broken an a6 v6 axle? I think most people swap rear ends because "they think they have to", or because they want to run a 3.73, or 3.91 gear... It's quite a bit of work to swap out the rear end, not to mention expensive to swap out all of the parts. Rough guess, $1200-1800 bucks not counting labor if you can't do it yourself.



You can probably swap posi/locker guts into your current carrier while it's still in the car if I can come up with something. For about 1/3 the cost of a rear end swap or less.



The Auto, and lack of bottom end torque the v6 has would probably be pretty easy on parts. I question weather a diff swap is really necessary, unless you're just doing it for the ratio selection or you have north of 400hp to the wheels.

Good point. Not sure anyone has broken their auto v6 rears either.
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