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Nick S · 06-22-2017, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1970judge

*Mr. Wyndham* · 06-22-2017, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Caseyls3

7:16:04...good lord

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...sec-ring-time/

I called it!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

...I'd LOVE to see a Nurburgring time....Given how hardcore they are billing it as, I don't doubt we'll get something. Fingers crossed that it's dry the whole time!

...for whatever it's worth...I'm guessing 7:16 +/- 3 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

3 seconds faster around Milford Road Course was the advertised improvement, which is a 2.9 mi. track...at that length, 3 seconds faster is ages.

On the Ring, that translates to somewhere around 12-16 seconds.

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Insane!

The next Vette will be 7:09 and change. SMH

Agreed!!

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Originally Posted by 1970judge

FenwickHockey65 · 06-23-2017, 04:25 PM

https://www.trucks.com/2017/06/22/sp...ty-work-truck/

Been busy, Number 3?

Number 3 · 07-08-2017, 10:39 AM

First, Fbodfather is home and making progress. Great News!

Second, a Z/28 will have to be faster around any track, including the ring, to have a reason for being. ZL1 1LE is a verrrryyyyyy high bar.

Whether it has to be NA is another point of discussion. It would need to be 550+ HP to even have a chance andthe 1LE already has brakes and aero topped out.

Sadly I don't see the spot unless it takes whatever 700 plus HP engine supposedly going in the Corvette.

Third, Fenwick, I can't say.

Bhobbs · 07-12-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

First, Fbodfather is home and making progress. Great News!

Second, a Z/28 will have to be faster around any track, including the ring, to have a reason for being. ZL1 1LE is a verrrryyyyyy high bar.

Whether it has to be NA is another point of discussion. It would need to be 550+ HP to even have a chance andthe 1LE already has brakes and aero topped out.

Sadly I don't see the spot unless it takes whatever 700 plus HP engine supposedly going in the Corvette.

Third, Fensick, I can't say.

It's possible the Z/28 could remain an engineering demonstrator, and include things like carbon wheels, brakes and active aero. The DSSVs are now used on multiple GM products.

Scarrzz · 07-25-2017, 07:56 PM

Great to hear of Fbodfather getting back home and making progress. Thanks for that.

7:16.04

Number 3 · 07-29-2017, 11:25 AM

These two posts are drawing crickets in Camaro6 land.

Used to be this type of information would have a great discussion.

But looks like Cadillac is going to change things up a bit.

May or may not impact Alpha architecture as they could choose to take the new CTS (CT5) off of Omega instead, a lighter and stiffer architecture.

Not sure where a sub ATS car comes from or if it's even RWD. For a two month study, they held Alpha up to look at an ATS off of the FWD Delta architecture with an IRS.

Either way the CTS is compromised in many ways from being a stretched and widened ATS. So if they are doing what is suggested, they will either be modifying Alpha to be a great Mid Size or taking it smaller for a sub ATS.

Interesting stuff.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/28/g...und-ab-tile-15

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/28/c...-cts-analysis/

*DGthe3* · 07-29-2017, 11:41 AM

Just replied to your thread as you were posting in here.

Mark_Z28 · 07-29-2017, 07:54 PM

Impressive for sure but I expected the time to be closer to the z06. Would it be fair to speculate with further brake/tire development and a more powerful but lighter NA drive train a 6th gen z28 could trim significantly more time?

Number 3 · 08-05-2017, 07:15 PM

2 beautiful Z/28s at the Lombard cruise night. Great plate on this one.

2cnd chance · 08-07-2017, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

2 beautiful Z/28s at the Lombard cruise night. Great Pete on this one.

As impressive as the ZL1 & ZL1/1LE are the 5Gen IMO is still the better looking Camaro.

Number 3 · 08-08-2017, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

As impressive as the ZL1 & ZL1/1LE are the 5Gen IMO is still the better looking Camaro.

There was a ZL1 there too. Have to say it was impressive too. Just can't top an LS7 powered Camaro.

2cnd chance · 08-09-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

There was a ZL1 there too. Have to say it was impressive too. Just can't top an LS7 powered Camaro.

You just gotta love having a 427 in a Chevy!!! I'm really enjoying the Grand Sport, but if a 427 was an option I'd have gone for it!

Bhobbs · 08-09-2017, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

There was a ZL1 there too. Have to say it was impressive too. Just can't top an LS7 powered Camaro.

I agree. After driving my dad's Z/28, there is nothing like it. The sound and feel of that car is unlike anything I've driven. My 1LE and the ZL1 don't come close.

06-23-2017, 04:25 PM	#17349
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	https://www.trucks.com/2017/06/22/sp...ty-work-truck/ Been busy, Number 3? __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

07-08-2017, 10:39 AM	#17350
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,172 View My Garage	First, Fbodfather is home and making progress. Great News! Second, a Z/28 will have to be faster around any track, including the ring, to have a reason for being. ZL1 1LE is a verrrryyyyyy high bar. Whether it has to be NA is another point of discussion. It would need to be 550+ HP to even have a chance andthe 1LE already has brakes and aero topped out. Sadly I don't see the spot unless it takes whatever 700 plus HP engine supposedly going in the Corvette. Third, Fenwick, I can't say. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Last edited by Number 3; 07-13-2017 at 07:21 PM.

07-25-2017, 07:56 PM	#17352
Scarrzz No Fear-No Limits- Camaro Drives: '13 ZL1 or Suzuki Hayabusa Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana, CO, GA, TX, etc. Posts: 2,033 View My Garage	Great to hear of Fbodfather getting back home and making progress. Thanks for that. 7:16.04 __________________ . __________________________________ ................................................The Faithful are Watching.

07-29-2017, 11:25 AM	#17353
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,172 View My Garage	These two posts are drawing crickets in Camaro6 land. Used to be this type of information would have a great discussion. But looks like Cadillac is going to change things up a bit. May or may not impact Alpha architecture as they could choose to take the new CTS (CT5) off of Omega instead, a lighter and stiffer architecture. Not sure where a sub ATS car comes from or if it's even RWD. For a two month study, they held Alpha up to look at an ATS off of the FWD Delta architecture with an IRS. Either way the CTS is compromised in many ways from being a stretched and widened ATS. So if they are doing what is suggested, they will either be modifying Alpha to be a great Mid Size or taking it smaller for a sub ATS. Interesting stuff. http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/28/g...und-ab-tile-15 http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/28/c...-cts-analysis/ __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

07-29-2017, 11:41 AM	#17354
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Just replied to your thread as you were posting in here. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

07-29-2017, 07:54 PM	#17355
Mark_Z28 Drives: Black 2015 Z28 #457 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 214	Impressive for sure but I expected the time to be closer to the z06. Would it be fair to speculate with further brake/tire development and a more powerful but lighter NA drive train a 6th gen z28 could trim significantly more time?

08-05-2017, 07:15 PM	#17356
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,172 View My Garage	2 beautiful Z/28s at the Lombard cruise night. Great plate on this one. Attached Images __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Last edited by Number 3; 08-08-2017 at 06:59 PM.

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