[Hyper16]

Originally Posted by CapeCruisin

OnStar will then begin to provide you with information on driving events, including.
Hard braking instances and where they took place
Hard acceleration instances and where they took place
Speeds over 80mph
Distance driven
Late night driving (driving between 12am and 4am)
Plus, average miles per gallon, miles per hour and total idle time

I was referring to the Progressive Snapshot the the OP had installed.

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

" Hello Mr. Smith, this is OnStar. We are glad that you have have purchased a 2016 Camaro SS and enrolled in OnStar's Smart Driver program. We have recorded your driving at a speed of 88 MPH in a posted 65 MPH. We have alerted the State Highway Patrol of your current location, speed, tag number and color of vehicle. As soon as they are behind your car, we will reduce the speed in your car and cut off the engine as to avoid any kind of hazardous situation. A detailed speed event will be sent to the trooper that stopped you showing him the exact GPS location(s) where you achieved your greatest speeds. We have also alerted your car insurance company about the speeding ticket(s) you are about to receive. Have a great day and thank you for choosing On Star"

LMAO!!

[IrishShadow]

This thread proves paranoia is hilarious.

[Outrun]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

" Hello Mr. Smith, this is OnStar. We are glad that you have have purchased a 2016 Camaro SS and enrolled in OnStar's Smart Driver program. We have recorded your driving at a speed of 88 MPH in a posted 65 MPH. We have alerted the State Highway Patrol of your current location, speed, tag number and color of vehicle. As soon as they are behind your car, we will reduce the speed in your car and cut off the engine as to avoid any kind of hazardous situation. A detailed speed event will be sent to the trooper that stopped you showing him the exact GPS location(s) where you achieved your greatest speeds. We have also alerted your car insurance company about the speeding ticket(s) you are about to receive. Have a great day and thank you for choosing On Star"

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by SPARTAN sui

I do! I did it a year ago on my 5th gen, I enrolled right away with my 6th gen. It dropped my insurance rate substantially on my 5th gen. I was paying around $95 a month, it dropped it to $72 a month. Now I'm paying $52 a month including gap insurance. That's around $624/year. 27, clean record.

With the progressive snapshot I'm saving 7% so far or about $27. You only have to keep it plugged in for 6 months, after that you send it back and still keep the same rate.

It monitors hard braking and what times you drive your car. You get dinged for hard braking and driving late at night/early morning.

My weekly stats are 0:00 time of high risk driving. .78 hard brakes, about 64 miles a week.

I need to take more road trips!

Did you buy this car to collect or drive? I have a lot of self restraint and if I bought the car to store I could understand that. Although 3k miles a year is not healthy for a v8! LOL It is your car so drive as you please is how I see it. Unfortunately everyone else in checking on driving habits does not. I have progressive, 33 clean driving record and paid $532 for 6 months. I figured 20k miles a year, about 60 miles a day seeing 100+ daily and loves to test the limits when I am all by myself was the best I could get from Progressive. The snapshot is just going to tell on me.

The OP talking about On Star I do not believe is in their best interests to tell on us. How much will they make off of onstar subscribers? How much does it make off of Law Enforcement? This is the same thing as Apple just went through. Now I am not a huge fan of Apple products by my choice only. I think it is cool they tried to stand their ground, even if it was to make more money in the long run.

[SPARTAN sui]

Both, I don't plan on selling it and it's my daily driver. I live in small town and two blocks away from work. Typically I put on around 10,000 miles a year.

[BigCee66]

Dont you have to sign up for this though? I know I havent yet.

[The1DoubleN]

Originally Posted by Socalpilot

Speaking of Insurance, just got my quote from State Farm on the new car...$1040.00 per year!! WTF no accidents or tickets in 20+ years OUCH!

A) $1K/yr to insure a new camaro (or any car) in LA is not bad at all.

B) State Farm is your most expensive option in general unless you use them for a whole bunch of other insurance products. Did you look at GEICO or Mercury to compare rates?

[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by BigCee66

Dont you have to sign up for this though? I know I havent yet.

signing up just gives you the report.. It doesn't do anything about what onstar does with the data it is always reading in regardless of if you have a subscription or not or have opted into anything or not.

[buck_dawg_gold]

Originally Posted by The1DoubleN

A) $1K/yr to insure a new camaro (or any car) in LA is not bad at all.

B) State Farm is your most expensive option in general unless you use them for a whole bunch of other insurance products. Did you look at GEICO or Mercury to compare rates?

I'm at 1400 with statefarm. Other name brand insurers quoted me 1650 to 1800. I'm in my 30's one at fault accident on my driving record.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Sounds like it's more based on efficiency and wear/tear diagnostic items. I'm sure my score will be real, real low.

I wonder if they could do a "fun driver" score, too?

It's kind of funny to read all of the "big brother" comments, honestly. In today's world of telemetry, Wi-Fi, cameras, and social media...You need too crawl into a hole to avoid supervision and monitoring. OnStar is among the least of your concerns.

I knew a person who's new smartphone was broadcasting their position real-time to "friends" for months without knowing it...

[Number 3]

Your phone has pretty much everything anyone would need to know your location, your speed, your rate of acceleration an deceleration. Everything OnStar can do except throttle position.......but if you are accelerating hard that's pretty much derived

No ones complaining about their phones though.

I've said it before, a friend swears he gets targeted ads for things he has never searched for........but he has talked about. You know how you can simply go, "hey, Siri" on an iPhone 6s without touching your phone? Yep your phone is listening too.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Your phone has pretty much everything anyone would need to know your location, your speed, your rate of acceleration an deceleration. Everything OnStar can do except throttle position.......but if you are accelerating hard that's pretty much derived

No ones complaining about their phones though.

I've said it before, a friend swears he gets targeted ads for things he has never searched for........but he has talked about. You know how you can simply go, "hey, Siri"? Yep your phone is listening.

Posts 26 and 33.

And, yes, all those voice assistants send the sound clips off for remote processing and response.. It's not just phones. TVs do this as well. Your home automation systems that are cloud linked. Even having BT/GPS/WiFi on your phone enabled walking around in public allows for tracking of you based on the various hardware level addresses. There are even Mobile ISP based SuperCookies you can't see or even clear.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Your phone has pretty much everything anyone would need to know your location, your speed, your rate of acceleration an deceleration. Everything OnStar can do except throttle position.......but if you are accelerating hard that's pretty much derived

No ones complaining about their phones though.

I've said it before, a friend swears he gets targeted ads for things he has never searched for........but he has talked about. You know how you can simply go, "hey, Siri" on an iPhone 6s without touching your phone? Yep your phone is listening too.

Difference is with OnStar in a second the folks at the control center can dispatch your VIN, color, name, address, phone number, velocity, RPM, transmission gear, and engine temperature. And if you think they can't or won't in the future you are very naive.

It's a lot harder to hide a 2 ton chunk of metal in defining color for the world to see from the police and insurance company than it is to hide your smartphone.

Apple can know where you are and how fast you're going (unless you have GPS turned off which you can't do with OnStar unless you remove the fuse, unplug the antenna, or tear out the module ), but they don't know how you're going that fast or in what.