VIDEO! Motortrend Drag Race between GT500 and Camaro SS!

[Mr. Wyndham]

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by syr74

GT500's make reliable, driveable 800hp cars on premium unleaded without ever touching a valve cover. And were talking about a car you wouldn't know wasn't stock in most situations. And that is a major part of the cars draw, the ridiculous power that can be made for cheap. If you want to crank out that kind of power in a Camaro SS, have it act like it was made for it, and do so in reliable trim, you'll shell out some serious coin..

That is the aspect that sold me..... and the SuperCharger sounds like pure sex......

[JewelZ]

haha, wow R U SERIOUS, not even a 30 ft and less than 1 second difference when its about 114hp more... I'm sorry but where is the hennessey! I'm howling for the Hennessey now!

[khislop007]

Originally Posted by bpmurr

I'm almost certain I'll beat your SS by more then 1/10th of a second with my GT500. With those Goodyears on. I don't magazine race. If somebody really believes there is only .1 second difference between the two cars your nuts and seriously into fan boy territory.

[JewelZ]

Now here is a decent comparison... http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=151466

[GM4lyfe]

Originally Posted by syr74

I never complained about the GT versus SS comparo and still find it a perfectly logical matchup. As for the price difference between the GT500 and the SS. We both know better than to think that you'll somehow squeak into a car that combines the longevity and durability of the GT500 setup, as well as the easy tunability, for much less than the price difference between the two.

GT500's make reliable, driveable 800hp cars on premium unleaded without ever touching a valve cover. And were talking about a car you wouldn't know wasn't stock in most situations. And that is a major part of the cars draw, the ridiculous power that can be made for cheap. If you want to crank out that kind of power in a Camaro SS, have it act like it was made for it, and do so in reliable trim, you'll shell out some serious coin.

If you are looking for a simple, bolt on car to get you into the 500hp range, and a Vette is off the table, the Camaro owns the market right now. This is particularly true if you want to accomplish the same naturally aspirated. Want more than that? Unless you are brand loyal the GT500 is going to get you there easier and cheaper.

I agree and disagree with you on some aspects. Yes Ford has allways had the upper hand on aftermarket support and go fast for cheap. And today with Ford engines are pretty good for making and holding high HP. But if your comparing a brand new SS and GT500 the price differance and weight the SS will give you a head start for modding. Brand loyalty aside and all that other BS, the SS might still win out in the mod/dollar war(ricer excuses some will say).

The only weak point in the LSx engines for years are the pistons and rods everything else could be left alone for serious power. Upgrade the the pistons, rods and the engine LSx could be a stong reliable motor, along with a FI, cam, bolt ons and heads. So for ~15k(just a guess) with endless combos on top of a base price of a SS you maybe at or under the base price of a stock GT500. We can go on for days mod VS mod discussion. Just my .02

[novajess1972]

Originally Posted by Andro

Not bad for a N/A car against a F/I vehicle

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by Sleestack

Trap speed shows the true power of a vehicle. Are you aware that Stock C6's trap around 116mph? 118mph is pretty significant. I guess the driver of a Toyota Camry (101mph trap) may be equally unimpressed by the Camaro SS (111mph trap).

Yes, I am fully aware of the trap speeds of a C6. What I was saying is that is the 7 mph difference in trap speed work 17,000 dollars in price?

In my opinion, it is not. Especially when you can take that 17,000 and pour it into the camaro (before the warranty is up if you don't care about the warranty, or after if you do) and produce a much greater than 7 mph increase in trap speed.
- X

[topgun1]

i'm just ecstatic seeing a 12.9 1/4 mile time for the SS and only losing by 0.1 seconds to the 540 hp supercharged GT500! Now imagine a supercharged SS and what that could do-mid 12's or better? Round of applause to the SS for putting up those numbers with 114 less horses.

[Fast SS]

Originally Posted by Sleestack

Here is a more detailed test where the 500 ran 12.7 sec @ 118.1 mph*
*Traction limited by low ambient and track temperatures.

The true power is noted in the Trap speed of 118mph, which is CTS-V territory. High 11's with drag radials only is a given.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/specs.html

I agree, the trap speed tells you the truth about the comparison.

Clearly the GT500 had a pretty crappy 60ft and was traction limited.

[Fast SS]

Originally Posted by GM4lyfe

I agree and disagree with you on some aspects. Yes Ford has allways had the upper hand on aftermarket support and go fast for cheap. And today with Ford engines are pretty good for making and holding high HP. But if your comparing a brand new SS and GT500 the price differance and weight the SS will give you a head start for modding. Brand loyalty aside and all that other BS, the SS might still win out in the mod/dollar war(ricer excuses some will say).

The only weak point in the LSx engines for years are the pistons and rods everything else could be left alone for serious power. Upgrade the the pistons, rods and the engine LSx could be a stong reliable motor, along with a FI, cam, bolt ons and heads. So for ~15k(just a guess) with endless combos on top of a base price of a SS you maybe at or under the base price of a stock GT500. We can go on for days mod VS mod discussion. Just my .02

I'm coming from a 640rwhp GTO.

To go with forged rods/pistons, new heads, cam, full exhaust, FI, fuel system, driveline upgrades will run you real close to $20K plus. That is if you are doing a lot of the work yourself.

To me the advantage of the LS series of engines is the great and easy ability to make big power N/A. As soon as you start talking about FI then to me Ford has the upper hand with their forged stock motors. This is if you are talking $$ to HP.

If you are just talking about power, then brand loyalty flies out the door and what you are really talking about is the size of someones wallet.

[benjj]

Originally Posted by snizzle

"Just as the Mustang GT is a lot closer to the Camaro SS than its horsepower difference suggests it ought to be, the Camaro SS is a lot closer to the GT500than you'd think."

Looks like the GT500 is the pure raw track car while the SS is the daily driver muscle. I'd say that's pretty accurate and where both manufacturers are trying to position their respective cars. At least they admit it makes more sense to compare it to the GT..... this from the same people who pit the ZR1 against a jet.

$10 that jet had NOS

Originally Posted by syr74

Stuff like this drives me nuts. Is the Camaro a great deal? Yeah. In the hands of Joe average are you going to notice a huge difference in performance between a GT500 and a Camaro SS? Probably not. Can a Camaro get anywhere near a 12.2 second 1/4 mile bone stock? No, but the GT500 can given a good driver and decent conditions. Make no mistake, if you have the ability to extract maximum performance from the car the GT500 is genuinely stupid fast. Does that somehow make the Camaro SS a loser? Of course not. DOes the fact that Joe average is never going to be able to tell the diffrence between these two cars make the GT500 a loser? Of course not.

Both cars have a lot to offer. And, depending upon what you want out of your car, your personal abilities, and the size of your wallet, each makes a compelling argument for itself.

just who is this Joe Average you speak of? everybody on this site is a professional driver

Originally Posted by bpmurr

I wish you lived closer, I could make that happen.

eeeeasy tiger, let's keep the site family friendly

[Unfair]

Wait so it's unfair to compare a car with 114 more hp, but it's not unfair to compare a car with 111 more hp?

[Cessna510]

Lol we know the 500 is 12.5-12.7car and we've seen the SS break into the high 12's. I mean i'm trying to be as polite as possible..but really?? $50k huh?..I vote used z06