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Bay Area SS · 11-05-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony @ LG Motorsports

How do you want to get there, and how do you want the car to drive?

We have hit 538-540 rwhp on pump 93 octane on a stock short block, but it is a bit aggressive. The highest we have done stock displacement was 568 rwhp..a bit more radical still and that would require 98-100 octane to do that one.

Of course if you want to go bigger cubes, then that makes it much easier to do, but remember if you keep the bore the same and just increase stroke it will not do much for HP, but a ton for torque...given the exact same combo, just a longer stroke expect 15-18 hp, and 35-45 ft-lbs of torque increase.

Thx for chimin in.. I was Goin crazy when dudes on here with cars that have a bolt on or two preaching that 550 is a no go on stock short block, an acquaintance is running one of your big cams and ls7 heads making 545 at wheels. Daily driver no problems..

IROCanSS · 11-05-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mgoodbar

owwwww dude that sucksssss... I would be really

after buying them and that happen... will they replace them??

Richmond too care of it. It took a little kicking and screaming but I got a refund. This happened long ago... March 2010. My car had the first set of 4.10s in a Camaro.

IROCanSS · 11-05-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area SS

Thx for chimin in.. I was Goin crazy when dudes on here with cars that have a bolt on or two preaching that 550 is a no go on stock short block, an acquaintance is running one of your big cams and ls7 heads making 545 at wheels. Daily driver no problems..

Easy bro... all you got on me is a cam... Big cam LS7 is not a stock short block LS3... you get 550 to the tires out of a stock short block LS3 and it will be a bear to drive... if you could even get there.

sneakypete · 11-06-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Easy bro... all you got on me is a cam... Big cam LS7 is not a stock short block LS3... you get 550 to the tires out of a stock short block LS3 and it will be a bear to drive... if you could even get there.

I'm pretty sure he said LS7 heads, not a big cam LS7. Thats a huge difference.

IROCanSS · 11-06-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sneakypete

I'm pretty sure he said LS7 heads, not a big cam LS7. Thats a huge difference.

Ah, yea just caught that. Huge difference.

CC Performance · 11-06-2011, 11:19 AM

Everyones tolerances and what they define as steetable is going to be different

550 rwhp can be done. Not that I would do it with the oem engine.. and engine is an air pump.. move more air make more power... rpms move more air... but you have nuamces that come with hi rpms....
no its not practical and would be a bear of a car to drive with the stock engine...
but a stroke and hone and head job and it then becomes practical with cubic inches...

As from Anthony from LG said its the rpm at which the power is developed

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-06-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CC Performance

Are those your numbers??
Thats grossly underpowerd for a 427, not trying to insult you either.. just amazed that your only putting down 500

We made 500 with a head a cam 346 and our 383 makes about 40 more hp than that at the tires as well. You should be able to make more hp than that and not lose tq. Something is not right there... unless you have a stock cam in it?

Drives stock....he could sell this car to anybody
Anywere and never worry about emissions or
Anybody complaining how it drives.

Btw- there is not a 376 around that makes
His torque ...na.

CC Performance · 11-06-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Drives stock....he could sell this car to anybody
Anywere and never worry about emissions or
Anybody complaining how it drives.

Btw- there is not a 376 around that makes
His torque ...na.

Have you seen that 427 vid I posted ? that drives stock as well but makes a lot more hp and tq and passes emissions and could sell to anyone as well....LOL

Just thought it was pretty low numbers for a 427. Wasn't meant to cause a stir, thats why I asked if it has an oem cam in it.

Rage · 11-06-2011, 01:51 PM

I made 449/459 on a Mustang dyno with the mods in my sig. From what I hear, if I go to a dynojet dyno I should pull 510/520....ish(im not chasing these #'s btw). Number are just numbers. With stock tires I have enough traction issues at the track.... as a DD, its not bad. Just gotta learn how to drive with a big cam.

andredmg · 11-06-2011, 01:59 PM

Believe it or not my car drives close to stock, major part had to do with the clutch I installed (McLeod RXT) and when I say close to stock it actually feels better than the stock Camaro clutch which I hated. I've heard the ZR1 is pretty similar to a stock feel. I say go all out on the build and have fun with the car (YOU WILL HAVE FUN) because like a lot of other car friends I have you'll probably want more. My cars are always naturally aspirated just my thing.

rstawara · 11-06-2011, 02:22 PM

Thanks alot for all the reply's! Still trying to figure things out though, which im in no rush for since i wont be home till Feb. Although knowing my Parts are stacking up in my Garage is pretty cool IMO!

Pollock · 11-06-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brantley847

Traction issues when you hit the strip or auto-x and street?.... or just all the above. lol

I have not been back to the drag strip but when I floor it on the street and after the motor hits 3k or so the tires let loose in first or second gear. Maybe the colder outside temps too.

Nessal · 11-07-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Only for the better... IMO. I had 4.10s for about a month and it was GREAT... Then they exploded :(.

Please do tell!

fldrummer · 11-07-2011, 08:22 AM

I have 23K miles on my Richmond 4.10s and just made my first 2 passes at the track last week with no problems. Then again, I was running on all-season tires and rolling into the throttle (went a bit more aggressive the 2nd time but just spun a bunch through 1st).

11-06-2011, 01:51 PM	#37
Rage TRI-COUNTY CAMARO... FTW! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Cyber Grey Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,200 View My Garage	I made 449/459 on a Mustang dyno with the mods in my sig. From what I hear, if I go to a dynojet dyno I should pull 510/520....ish(im not chasing these #'s btw). Number are just numbers. With stock tires I have enough traction issues at the track.... as a DD, its not bad. Just gotta learn how to drive with a big cam. __________________ CAI inc. cold air intake, LG G6x3 cam, Patriot Gold Extreme Dual springs, Titanium retainers and locks, LG SuperPro 1 7/8 Long Tube headers with full 3" exhaust, DynoMax VT mufflers, SLP 4" tips, Moroso catch can, Race Ready electronic exhaust cut outs, Full painted Razzi body kit, Headlight Armor Smoke taillight and marker blackouts, T-Rex aluminum upper and lower grille, Polished aluminum front and rear bowties. Professionally installed and Dyno Tuned by HorsePower Sales, Pompano Beach FL.

11-06-2011, 01:59 PM	#38
andredmg Big Nasty Drives: Chevys lots of em Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 930	Believe it or not my car drives close to stock, major part had to do with the clutch I installed (McLeod RXT) and when I say close to stock it actually feels better than the stock Camaro clutch which I hated. I've heard the ZR1 is pretty similar to a stock feel. I say go all out on the build and have fun with the car (YOU WILL HAVE FUN) because like a lot of other car friends I have you'll probably want more. My cars are always naturally aspirated just my thing. __________________

11-07-2011, 08:22 AM	#42
fldrummer "Black Ace" Drives: Supercharged 2010 SS, 2016 Golf R Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,352	I have 23K miles on my Richmond 4.10s and just made my first 2 passes at the track last week with no problems. Then again, I was running on all-season tires and rolling into the throttle (went a bit more aggressive the 2nd time but just spun a bunch through 1st). __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009 Mods: Forged 416 LS3, Maggie TVS 2300 SC (~11 psi), custom cam (232/247, .630/.630, 118 LSA), 90-lb. injectors, ZL1 fuel pump & ADM controller, Alky Control meth kit, Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, ZL1 drivetrain conversion w/ DSS 1000-HP axles & 1-pc. driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. Built & tuned by Kraftworks. 755 rwhp/708 rwtq Last edited by fldrummer; 11-07-2011 at 08:39 AM.

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CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	Everyones tolerances and what they define as steetable is going to be different 550 rwhp can be done. Not that I would do it with the oem engine.. and engine is an air pump.. move more air make more power... rpms move more air... but you have nuamces that come with hi rpms.... no its not practical and would be a bear of a car to drive with the stock engine... but a stroke and hone and head job and it then becomes practical with cubic inches... As from Anthony from LG said its the rpm at which the power is developed

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rstawara Drives: 11 Black SS M6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Va Beach Posts: 71	Thanks alot for all the reply's! Still trying to figure things out though, which im in no rush for since i wont be home till Feb. Although knowing my Parts are stacking up in my Garage is pretty cool IMO!