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Yes, I would still be interested in purchasing the car. | 537 | 78.17% | |
No, I wouldn't buy it because that's not what I think it should be called. | 150 | 21.83% | |
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01-18-2011, 11:43 PM | #239 | ||
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A blown, option laden Camaro should not be named Z-28. It should be named "High corporate and dealership margin dollar, overweight bling ride", or HCDMDOBR.
A first gen inspired Z-28 to me means high reving N/A, lightweight, no frills, road race suspension and brakes, dry sump pan, functional cold air hood and with boxed up long tube headers in the trunk to swap on for those track days.
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01-18-2011, 11:51 PM | #240 |
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I have a question for the crowd. Is it a big deal for this car to be very suped up and to be great on the track? I would say with this new suspension, and all of the testing on "the track", it is GOING to be a track car. NOW, if this track car also has a MONSTER engine, I fail to see the argument. Not to pick a fight, but I don't think it is in GM's best interests to build so many different variations of a car due to the financial situations. So if this car crushes the Boss and the GT-500, what is the problem? Not to mention the only reason why the GT500 isn't a great track car, is because Ford can't get it right.
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01-19-2011, 12:12 AM | #241 | |
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If you don't give people choices, they will go to someone who offers them. Take a look at the Mustang, you're given 10 choices (V6, V6 premium, v6 conv, GT, V6 premium conv, GT premium, GT conv, GT premium conv, GT500, GT500 conv). You have the V6, GT, and GT500 (3). I guess if they offer the next version of the Camaro in convertible, that would be 11. |
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01-19-2011, 04:31 AM | #242 |
@Dragoneye I feel like you missed the point of my posts, im not saying the Z should be limited, and im not saying completely strip the interior, im saying do what Ford is doing with the Boss, which is leave out the luxury aspect and go for what a muscle car originally was, a stripped (as in lightweight materials and no fancy luxury, not "no interior at all") car with emphasis on light weight, handling, and high output. I dont see why people seem to think this is such an irrational formula when Ford has already announced their doing it with one of their Mustang models. So im not saying make it a no-interior car with an aftermarket motor and running straight headers and all that, thats rediculous, im saying go as far as you can towards a stripped down road warrior as all the standards and regulations will allow you too.
Also i dont consider the LSA as "tuned" at all, its a whole motor in itself, you dont tune an LSA to become an LSA, you just build an LSA. Sure it has an LS block and a supercharger but its all part of the motor itself none of it is changed from any other standard motor, i dont consider it tuned...now if GM presented an LS3 or LS7 with a different cam and heads than anything they offer stock in any car or as a crate then i would consider that a tuned motor. As for the Boss i dont over estimate it, i just love the idea behind the car, im not a Ford lover by any means i love all muscle with a slight partialness towards GM, hell i drive a Camaro. Its not the fact that its a Boss or a 302 or any of that, its the idea behind it i love, that "no fancy crap here" idea LOL @thok mcbeefstew Because with that kind of mind-set whats the point in a V6 model at all? or whats the point in a GT mustang if there's a GT500 out there thats even better, and whats the point of even offering a GT500 at all when there's a GT500 Super Snake. See my point? @14pilot I completely agree, and some may say "well thats true, for 1st gens, but this isnt 1st gen anymore" but i still agree with you, because these cars SHOULD closely resemble their heritage, thats the whole point, if it wasnt the Mustang wouldnt look like a 60s' Mustang and wouldnt have a 302ci motor, and the Camaro wouldnt look like a 60's Camaro, and the Challenger would DEFINATLY not be the boxy ass "to hell with aerodynamics" Vanishing Point machine we see today. Its all about nastalgia and heritage, so keep the nastalgia and the heritage, if you want a 2-door LSA powered super machine with everything and the kitchen sink...buy a CTS-V Coupe...leave my manual cloth seat, manual gear box, small-fry radio, no-nav Z/28 alone. Last edited by Vega; 01-19-2011 at 04:42 AM. |
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01-19-2011, 06:51 AM | #243 |
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I think we need a few more variations:
HP Standard Edition -- whatever the base is... as long as it has more than 500+ HP, new chrome, wheels, leather, logo, paint choices... HP Luxury Edition -- Every single gadget that you can think of from the SEMA show including the NAV and Audio system... 11 speakers + HP Super Sport Edition -- Street Legal minus the luxury... Think IROC Z HP Race Track Ready -- not street legal... no heater, no AC, no radio... just good old fashion built for race track warriors ... Now come to think of it... I think I want the HP Luxury Edition |
01-19-2011, 09:53 AM | #244 | |
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I think Ford simply can go the route they are with the Boss because they've have people to focus on it. To me, it seems the inception of the 5th Gen started in a skunkworks, if you will. I believe CAMARO has progressed to where it is now from fanatics within the Team, not so much because of how much GM is actually investing in the car; I mean the passion behind the Team has pushed it more than the money has. I'm not putting it on the screen like I'm seeing it in my head, lol. Ford had been able to keep the Mustang going this whole time. We had a little break with GM, so while I think CAMARO line will eventually match model-for-model, I don't know that's possible right now. I fully support it right now, but I just don't know if it's a good time quite yet.
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01-19-2011, 05:46 PM | #247 |
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Should be a curb weight limit on usage of Z28. I'd say any production Camaro over 4,000 lbs curb weight shouldn't qualify as a Z28.
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01-19-2011, 10:19 PM | #249 |
It WILL be called the Z28.
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01-19-2011, 10:35 PM | #250 |
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01-19-2011, 10:39 PM | #251 | |
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