03-21-2008, 08:19 PM | #1 |
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Would you consider a diesel Camaro?
Would anyone consider a diesel in a Camaro. GM recently developed a Duramax 4.5. They designed it to fit the same dimensions as typical small block. The engine will be available in future half ton pick-ups. GM hasn't ruled out the possiblity of the new diesel being put into passenger cars. I love diesels (I've been a diesel mechanic for almost 20 years). For so long they've gotten a bad rap, thanks in part to some God awful diesels produced in the past. Like the diesel 350 GM developed in the eighties. Talk about slow! And noisey. Nowadays, with the advances in turbocharging and computer controlled direct injection, diesels not only make the monsterous torque that they are known for, but they make comparable amounts of horsepower to similarly sized gas engines, and with around 20% better fuel economy. And furthermore, the aftermarket for diesels has increased exponentially over the last few years. Companies like Gale Banks Engineering offer computer upgrades, exhaust systems, and larger turbos which give current diesels stratospheric torque and horespower.
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03-21-2008, 09:04 PM | #2 |
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Well, diesels offer better mileage, fuel can be made practically for free, and large ones offer bone crushing torque, and sound more powerful than anything else out there. Oh, and from what I've heard, you can make crazy power out of them for cheap. So yes, I would consider it
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03-21-2008, 09:38 PM | #3 |
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I'd consider it, depending on the cost of the engine upgrade at purchase. I know that when I was looking for a new truck last year, the diesel upgrade on an F250 was a $6800+ option. Even with the severe torque these engines can put out and the fun that goes with it, I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay the additional upgrade costs up front.
Oh, and on the 20% fuel economy improvement...that's true but have you priced out the difference between diesel and gas at the pump lately? I paid $3.09/gal for gas today and diesel was $3.89/gal. That's a 26% price premium in fuel costs. Ouch! But, I'd consider it just for the fun of it and the ability to run bio-diesel. |
03-21-2008, 09:43 PM | #4 |
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I don't think I could get over the sound coming from my new Camaro : /
plus diesel is way more expensive than premium unleaded where I am, not that that would be a deal-breaker, but definitely a tally in the con section. I think I'd consider it though, for the torque : D |
03-21-2008, 10:45 PM | #5 |
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03-21-2008, 11:06 PM | #6 |
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I would buy a colorado/canyon Diesel.
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03-22-2008, 01:13 AM | #7 |
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At the current price of diesel, no. If that changed or I had the means to make my own bio-diesel, then maybe.
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03-22-2008, 01:29 AM | #8 |
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In a truck yes, in a Camaro HELL NO.
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03-22-2008, 02:26 AM | #9 |
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$4.00 per gallon for diesel here....too much for me. But yes...I would consider one in a heartbeat. If luxury cars can be made with them w/out sounding like normal diesels do, why not?
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03-22-2008, 02:43 AM | #10 |
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i would in a heartbeat. did any of you guys see the "pimp my ride" with the Impala that ran on bio-diesel??? that thing was sick.
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03-22-2008, 02:43 AM | #11 |
I would definitely consider it. Diesel is about $3.50-$3.80 around here (compared to $3.20 for 87 octane) so it's a bit costly, but the fuel savings might make up for it depending on how efficient they make it. And the blistering torque would make for a hellacious drive.
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03-22-2008, 12:46 PM | #12 |
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Depends on many factors. But it would definitely be in the comparison chart...
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03-22-2008, 05:13 PM | #13 |
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No, mostly because I have yet to encounter a diesel that doesn't sound like a truck engine. I'm getting a V8 because of the sound and feel of a V8 and I'm sticking to that.
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03-22-2008, 06:24 PM | #14 |
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Yeah, I think a Duramax 4500 powered Camaro would be badass. Its the same physical size and (almost, its got turbo stuff)weight as the LQ4.
Its as of right now making over 300hp and 500ftlbs torque. That would be bitchin. Plus the engine itself is just a really neat piece of engineering. It doesnt have any exhaust manifolds bolted to the outside of the heads like traditional v8's. The exhasut exits through what would normally be the intake ports, and into the manifolds and turbo which rest low down in the valley of the engine(its about the same height as an LS3) and the intake ports are integrated into the outside edge of the head, the camshaft covers(valve covers....but its a 4 cam engine, so cam covers) have the intake manifold built into them. The intake air goes through the valve covers, yes. There is nothing were you'd usually see spark plugs and headers on a GM v8, its just, bare. Weird shit.
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