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b4z · 02-11-2013, 08:42 AM

GTOs have big problems with the hydraulic cutch slave, master clinder, etc. I couldn't even spin the tires from a stop in mine because it would slip so badly. This started at 9000 miles.
I replaced every part and put a ls7 clutch in. When we pulled my old clutch out it was fine.
Now it is perfect and can spin 2nd gear for 15 feet.

only the beSSt · 02-11-2013, 01:48 PM

So if putting a blown fuse in does the trick, why not just leave the fuse out?

I don't mean to thread-jack, but I wonder of there is a similar trick to disable the hill-assist?

X25 · 02-11-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by only the beSSt

So if putting a blown fuse in does the trick, why not just leave the fuse out?

I don't mean to thread-jack, but I wonder of there is a similar trick to disable the hill-assist?

When you leave the fuse out it indeed disables the skip-shift, but it also causes a check engine light. The smart fuse, when blown, still lets through a very low amount of current (for the LED bulb of the fuse). It is not enough to run the solenoid, but enough to fool the car that the system is working.

only the beSSt · 02-11-2013, 02:21 PM

Ah. That makes sense.... do you know for sure that Camaros have the same solenoid fuse?

wakespeak · 02-12-2013, 10:55 AM

I have the standard SS but I find the transmission is notchy if the revs drop too much between shifts. I have seen this on other cars too.

It became more obvious after I pulled the fuse on the NPP and found that the engine revs slightly freer between shifts during typical driving. I expect the notchiness to return when the AC is run more often.

metthem · 02-13-2013, 08:09 AM

Does the 1LE have the same transmission as the non 1LE SS?

tramtwo · 02-13-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by metthem

Does the 1LE have the same transmission as the non 1LE SS?

Same manufacturer different model.

tramtwo posted this on the go

toehead93 · 02-13-2013, 02:51 PM

Technically it is the same TR6060 transmission, it just has a different gear set and shifter which is the MM6 close gear ratios that the Z06 has. Not sure if they made any other small changes.

tramtwo · 02-13-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by toehead93

Technically it is the same TR6060 transmission, it just has a different gear set and shifter which is the MM6 close gear ratios that the Z06 has. Not sure if they made any other small changes.

has a cooler on it as well

Michael2000 · 02-13-2013, 09:57 PM

These low quality transmissions are used far too often at GM, high effort, grinding, notchyness, gear rattle. This is one thing I absolutely can't stand. To make matters worse, they source these things to be built in some third world country. Of course, they're no good.

Sorry for the rant, but I've had far too many of these junk GM manual transmissions. I think the last decent one I had was a Muncie M21 in a '73 Z-28. Effort was a little high when cold (to be expected with 90 weight oil), but it never ground, never gave me a bit of trouble, no weird noises, low effort when warmed up, and shifted the same at 130,000 miles as it did when new.

Michael

vetehead · 03-09-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by only the beSSt

Interesting. This would be nice. Can anyone else vouch for the vailidity of this skip-shift elimination technique?

I can tell you for this works on my 2008 Corvette.....the solenoid does not have power with blown fuse so skip shift can't activate.The reason you want to use a smart fuse is because by simply removing the fuse or blowing the oem fuse,you will throw a code.The ECM is looking for the solenoids coil all the time,by using a smart fuse the led in the fuse creates enough resistance when lit to trick the PCM to think all is good.Hope this helps!

Ron

WHAMMO · 03-09-2013, 07:56 PM

A good start before trading car could be a fluid flush...and then bleeding the clutch...

Stock MC arent known for their top quality. I would invest in a Tick master...

cornerspeed92 · 03-09-2013, 07:58 PM

Im sure you guys have already seen this but i dont have any issues and im in race mode.

guess im just one of the lucky ones.

t&t moyer · 03-09-2013, 09:47 PM

It still is a bummer and understand the frustrations. It seems totally hit & miss. My 12' 45th SS was a little notchy but typically only when cold. Not a huge deal.

In 03' I bought a new Mach 1 and that had the same issues but got worse as many of the 03'-04' Mach 1s did at that time. Ford was rebuilding and replacing them as they crapped out. After buying mine from Koons in Va I moved to the UK and pushed to have it replaced under warranty. It took several months but they did ship a transmission to a local deal in the north where I was living, I supplied the fluids and after all that it really wasn't any better. Frustrating, yes but it's a matter of cheap parts spec'd out at the minimum to do the job. Tremec can supply a good tranny if they are spec'd out correctly.

Once our 1LE arrives I guess we'll find out how ours is. I'm confident it'll be fine but if not my dealer will take care of us. It's a mechanical part, it can and will fail at some point.

02-13-2013, 08:09 AM	#104
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02-13-2013, 02:51 PM	#106
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03-09-2013, 07:56 PM	#110
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,642	A good start before trading car could be a fluid flush...and then bleeding the clutch... Stock MC arent known for their top quality. I would invest in a Tick master... __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

03-09-2013, 09:47 PM	#112
t&t moyer It's all hers. Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Djibouti - Horn of Africa / Wellsville NY Posts: 719	It still is a bummer and understand the frustrations. It seems totally hit & miss. My 12' 45th SS was a little notchy but typically only when cold. Not a huge deal. In 03' I bought a new Mach 1 and that had the same issues but got worse as many of the 03'-04' Mach 1s did at that time. Ford was rebuilding and replacing them as they crapped out. After buying mine from Koons in Va I moved to the UK and pushed to have it replaced under warranty. It took several months but they did ship a transmission to a local deal in the north where I was living, I supplied the fluids and after all that it really wasn't any better. Frustrating, yes but it's a matter of cheap parts spec'd out at the minimum to do the job. Tremec can supply a good tranny if they are spec'd out correctly. Once our 1LE arrives I guess we'll find out how ours is. I'm confident it'll be fine but if not my dealer will take care of us. It's a mechanical part, it can and will fail at some point. __________________ #846

02-11-2013, 08:42 AM	#99
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	GTOs have big problems with the hydraulic cutch slave, master clinder, etc. I couldn't even spin the tires from a stop in mine because it would slip so badly. This started at 9000 miles. I replaced every part and put a ls7 clutch in. When we pulled my old clutch out it was fine. Now it is perfect and can spin 2nd gear for 15 feet.

02-11-2013, 01:48 PM	#100
only the beSSt Drives: IOM 1LE, awaiting my return Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Afghanistan, for a little while Posts: 171	So if putting a blown fuse in does the trick, why not just leave the fuse out? I don't mean to thread-jack, but I wonder of there is a similar trick to disable the hill-assist?

02-11-2013, 02:21 PM	#102
only the beSSt Drives: IOM 1LE, awaiting my return Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Afghanistan, for a little while Posts: 171	Ah. That makes sense.... do you know for sure that Camaros have the same solenoid fuse?

02-12-2013, 10:55 AM	#103
wakespeak Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,335	I have the standard SS but I find the transmission is notchy if the revs drop too much between shifts. I have seen this on other cars too. It became more obvious after I pulled the fuse on the NPP and found that the engine revs slightly freer between shifts during typical driving. I expect the notchiness to return when the AC is run more often.

02-13-2013, 09:57 PM	#108
Michael2000 Drives: . Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 467	These low quality transmissions are used far too often at GM, high effort, grinding, notchyness, gear rattle. This is one thing I absolutely can't stand. To make matters worse, they source these things to be built in some third world country. Of course, they're no good. Sorry for the rant, but I've had far too many of these junk GM manual transmissions. I think the last decent one I had was a Muncie M21 in a '73 Z-28. Effort was a little high when cold (to be expected with 90 weight oil), but it never ground, never gave me a bit of trouble, no weird noises, low effort when warmed up, and shifted the same at 130,000 miles as it did when new. Michael