How does GM get by with it?

[ScottR]

2013 Blue Ray Metallic, we bought it in mid December, already has 6,200 miles on it. Paint it perfect, not a bad spot anywhere, period!

[THUMPER20X]

Originally Posted by midnighter

I mean there are many threads about this which is fine but all they do for me is remind me of my Camaro's paint...

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These rock chips appeared after I waxed my Camaro for the first time. This paint blows!

Was being sarcastic lol. But yah the paint sucks. My Black 2000 ford focus ZX3 has better quality paint. And Im absolutely not joking.

[midnighter]

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

Was being sarcastic lol. But yah the paint sucks. My Black 2000 ford focus ZX3 has better quality paint. And Im absolutely not joking.

My 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 has excellent paint. 63,456 miles

[THUMPER20X]

Too bad because if the paint was fine I wouldnt really have a complaint about the car. I really really love it. But its a big deal. I didnt wash it at all last year because it actually looked better dirty. When it was clean you could see everything. Its was actually embarrassing. I just replied, "Dont buy a GM:" If they wont repaint it Ill just tell the truth and they have for sure lost at least one sale because of me. Maybe more, and Ill keep that up. They had their chance to fix it so tough shit.

[SimpleGreen]

Eh. I have a couple small chips in the gills from getting caught in road construction before I had my splash guards. The front end has several small chips here and there, and one or two on top of the hood from following trucks to closely or (again) road construction). After a good detail it's not all that noticeable. I'll live. This is with 11,450 miles (daily driving) since it left the lot April 21st, 2012.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by LuSe4

So sick of hearing about how fragile GM paint is. All cars built over here are like that. Go onto another forum, I guarantee there will be bitching about paint also! My wife's 2009 Camry looks like it was sand blasted on the front. I don't blame Toyota. When the solvent based paints went away, so did durability!

So, what actions have YOU personally taken to help bring back real durable solvent based paints?

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

So, since they can't get around the water-based thing

What actions have they tried to correct this water based situation? I'd like to know what steps have been taken so far and what is planned moving forward.

[THUMPER20X]

Imma eventually get mine repainted with the nastiest most durable paint I can find. I know a Guyanese body guy that has some of the "Good" old stuff. Like R12 refrigerant.....OOOOOO YAHHHH

[CamaroKid300]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

Im at 12,000 miles, 90% highway, with ZERO rock chips. Not one. And I detail my car, so I know intimately every little scratch or bug or bird crap stain, etc.

You just jinxed yourself

[buckeyemike]

Hmm, sounds like my car might get a new paint job whenever I decide to get a new bumper...

...or when I sell it for an SRT8 Yellow Jacket :ducks:

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

Imma eventually get mine repainted with the nastiest most durable paint I can find. I know a Guyanese body guy that has some of the "Good" old stuff. Like R12 refrigerant.....OOOOOO YAHHHH

I think the EPA has him on the "Drone Strike" list.

[DGthe3]

I blame the design of the car more than the chemistry of the paint. Its a pretty simple thing to test really. If other cars painted at the same plant, by the same people, with the same paint (such as the Impala), and doesn't chip as often ... the problem isn't the paint. Like the car itself, such as the coke bottle design -that everybody loves. Take a good look at the path debris would take from the front wheel to the back fender & honestly tell me that the sheet metal is not going to get sand blasted when driving.

Should GM have perhaps offered a fender guard to protect against this? Sure, which is probably why they sell quarter flares as a dealer installed option for $330. Should it have been standard equipment? Maybe, but then people would have been complaining about how the car comes with stupid looking quarter flares. Can't win em all.

[CWI]

Originally Posted by Camaro/ss/rs

How about this for an idea and help from GM.....every monday morning Camaro owners post pics of their cars and how the paint looks like crap, and the 3 worst get a re-paint by GM?

Sounds like a great idea to me......

How about this for an idea? Go be a lobbyist or quit bitching!

It is what it is and unless you have lot's of $$$, LOTS OF $$$, it will stay the same. Government makes mandates and we all end up accepting that in the long run.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

What actions have they tried to correct this water based situation? I'd like to know what steps have been taken so far and what is planned moving forward.

No doubt all proprietary information...

If you look at the very noticeable difference between the early years of the water-based paint and the final years of the other stuff...we've come a LONG way...