How does GM get by with it? - Page 9 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

The IOM Ninja · 03-11-2013, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hharris

well said!

one of my clear bra technicians told me last week that the camaro takes something like 32 square feet of materail to cover the front bumper!!

that is a crazy amount of front surface area but it makes since. the cars we see with the most chips are the dodge chargers, mini coopers and camaros. because they are shaped like a truck in the front (flat nosed) with a ton of surface area. and most likely are always seen driving in the fastlane of the interstate

That probably includes wastage but at the same time the Camaro front end probably does have the surface area of a 4x8 sheet of plywood if you were to cut
It up and place the pieces flat on it.

THUMPER20X · 03-12-2013, 11:44 PM

Chargers dont have this problem and the bodies are very similar. I think the body shape is a copout. The problem is widespread. Either the paint or the plant. Besides mines not chipped, the paint is still soft after 4 years. I have like 3 chips after 30k,

buckeyemike · 03-13-2013, 12:53 AM

No one will be able to convince Thumper otherwise, so why bother? He thinks his paint is crap, it's his problem. You could solve it with a respray of a custom color or something if it's that big of an issue.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-13-2013, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

Chargers dont have this problem and the bodies are very similar. I think the body shape is a copout.

That's fine that you think that, but this has been addressed multiple times, on some occasions by authorities on the matter, so even though it may not be an acceptable explanation to some - but it is the reality of the situation.

The charger is not close to the same body-style as the Camaro. It doesn't have quite the same sort of "slab" up front, and nowhere near the same sweeping doors into an exposed "gills" area. The car may look big and blocky - but you need to think in terms of aerodynamics, and the way air flows around surfaces when you compare vehicles shapes.

The shape and design of the body IS a major contributing factor, but not the only one, of paint chips on the Camaro.

MustangKiller · 03-13-2013, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevrolet Customer Svc

Let us know how this holds up for you. We are here at your convenience.

Brandon
Chevrolet Customer Service

Bonanza7 · 03-13-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abomb1223

And you think this is ok? I understand what happened . . I just dont think its ok. We paid good money for durability!

Take some comfort in this: I have a 2010 Honda, and the chipping is FAR worse than on the Camaro. 24k miles on the Camaro, and only a couple small,paint chips. The headlights are cratered. Go figure. The Honda has so many chips I am repainting it this week..but the headlights are perfect. Same route, same speeds, same everything.

Captain Awesome · 03-13-2013, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonanza7

Take some comfort in this: I have a 2010 Honda, and the chipping is FAR worse than on the Camaro

How can that be? It's a totally different shape from the Camaro!

Bonanza7 · 03-13-2013, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

How can that be? It's a totally different shape from the Camaro!

Far more streamlined than the Camaro, but still far more chips. Lots of complaints about paint on them also.

HeaterMan · 03-13-2013, 11:42 PM

as a former 2010 Camaro owner and a former 2011 Mustang 5.0 and currently a 2013 Mustang 5.0 owner i can honestly say from my experience that the camaro had worse paint than either of my mustangs and it wasnt even close. my camaro had many paint chips after 2 months and my 2011 mustang only had one chip after a year and 11000 miles. my 2013 has none and it's been 7 months. same roads and same type of driving.. I have a buddy who owns a camaro and he was complaining about the paint within 2 weeks of buying it..it's NOT the epa regs it's all GM.

MrWray · 03-14-2013, 12:46 AM

in 2002 i bought a brand new mustang GT, i had a spot on my hood the size of a silver dollar where paint was flaking off and didnt even have the car two weeks.

CRTZL1 · 03-14-2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeaterMan

as a former 2010 Camaro owner and a former 2011 Mustang 5.0 and currently a 2013 Mustang 5.0 owner i can honestly say from my experience that the camaro had worse paint than either of my mustangs and it wasnt even close. my camaro had many paint chips after 2 months and my 2011 mustang only had one chip after a year and 11000 miles. my 2013 has none and it's been 7 months. same roads and same type of driving.. I have a buddy who owns a camaro and he was complaining about the paint within 2 weeks of buying it..it's NOT the epa regs it's all GM.

Thats funny...I have the exact opposite experience. I have had many many mustangs ranging in years from 98 -2010.
I find the paint on my camaro to be far more superior to my mustangs.
The road rash and blemishes I got on every mustang ever owned was just ridiculous.
But then again maybe I feel this way cause my Camaro has 0 paint problems.
Just traded it yesterday though for a VR 1LE so hopefuuly I have the same luck with the new one in the paint department..

Blue Demon · 03-14-2013, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

Im at 12,000 miles, 90% highway, with ZERO rock chips. Not one. And I detail my car, so I know intimately every little scratch or bug or bird crap stain, etc.

I'm tossing the

flag on this one!

CRTZL1 · 03-14-2013, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Demon

I'm tossing the

flag on this one!

Yea cause it makes perfect sense for him to lie!!

I too have 5100 miles with not a one rock chip and you can take that to the bank sir!

NJIOMSS · 03-19-2013, 11:23 PM

There's too many variables to determine what causes the chips. My father has a '11 rally yellow convertible with 20k miles and it is riddled with paint chips, both on the front of the vehicle, a-pillar, and rear quarters. I just got my '10 IOM and it has 22k miles on it, not one noticeable rock chip. No exaggeration. His car looks real bad once inspected up close. It's embarrassing that he paid over $40k for that car and in a year and a half it looks that way. To say that he is upset about it is an understatement. Take it back to the dealer and they look at you like you have three heads. "Well you drive the car, don't you?" Unreal! They get away with putting out an inferior product in some aspects I would say. Is there any help or recourse with this issue?

03-12-2013, 11:44 PM	#114
THUMPER20X GM fix my PAINT U suck! Drives: 2010 Black 1SS/RS 6Spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Great Red North Posts: 1,856	Chargers dont have this problem and the bodies are very similar. I think the body shape is a copout. The problem is widespread. Either the paint or the plant. Besides mines not chipped, the paint is still soft after 4 years. I have like 3 chips after 30k, __________________

03-13-2013, 11:42 PM	#121
HeaterMan Drives: 2018 PP GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 264	as a former 2010 Camaro owner and a former 2011 Mustang 5.0 and currently a 2013 Mustang 5.0 owner i can honestly say from my experience that the camaro had worse paint than either of my mustangs and it wasnt even close. my camaro had many paint chips after 2 months and my 2011 mustang only had one chip after a year and 11000 miles. my 2013 has none and it's been 7 months. same roads and same type of driving.. I have a buddy who owns a camaro and he was complaining about the paint within 2 weeks of buying it..it's NOT the epa regs it's all GM. __________________ 1966 Buick GS 2018 PP1 A10 Mustang GT 2016 Scat Pack Challenger (gone 1-6-2018) 2013 Mustang GT Auto(sold) 2013 Track pack Mustang 5.0 (sold) 2011 Mustang 5.0 (sold) 2010 Camaro SS 6M ( sold)13.36 @109

03-14-2013, 12:46 AM	#122
MrWray SYBIL Drives: 2013 2SS/RS, silver ice metallic Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,444	in 2002 i bought a brand new mustang GT, i had a spot on my hood the size of a silver dollar where paint was flaking off and didnt even have the car two weeks. __________________

03-13-2013, 12:53 AM	#115
buckeyemike Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Scott AFB Posts: 597	No one will be able to convince Thumper otherwise, so why bother? He thinks his paint is crap, it's his problem. You could solve it with a respray of a custom color or something if it's that big of an issue.

03-19-2013, 11:23 PM	#126
NJIOMSS Drives: 2010 IOM SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Central NJ Posts: 456	There's too many variables to determine what causes the chips. My father has a '11 rally yellow convertible with 20k miles and it is riddled with paint chips, both on the front of the vehicle, a-pillar, and rear quarters. I just got my '10 IOM and it has 22k miles on it, not one noticeable rock chip. No exaggeration. His car looks real bad once inspected up close. It's embarrassing that he paid over $40k for that car and in a year and a half it looks that way. To say that he is upset about it is an understatement. Take it back to the dealer and they look at you like you have three heads. "Well you drive the car, don't you?" Unreal! They get away with putting out an inferior product in some aspects I would say. Is there any help or recourse with this issue?