Why no staple shifter? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

pck823 · 06-25-2009, 10:49 AM

IMO, one thing that differentiated GM from the rest back in the 60's were little design 'quirks' like this, or the hidden fuel filler on a 57 Bel Air, or the cylindircal speedometer on a 70 Olds Toronado (needle was fixed, but speedo scale was printed on a barrel that rotated about a horizontal axis), or the column shifter on an old Riviera....

So why no staple shifter on the SS A6? Anyone know of any aftermarket attempts at this? If not, I might have to make my own!

#55 on the list for:
SIM 2SS/RS/A6/polished wheels

Camaro509 · 06-25-2009, 10:53 AM

I am embarrassed to say I don't know what one is, got a link or a picture you can share?

Vash · 06-25-2009, 10:54 AM

Well because of costs. The buttons go to a relay and then to the electronic servo in the tranny. It would just be too expensive to do it that way.

The Hurst aftermarket and maybe a wood stick from the CTS Caddy lol might be only options.

Mr Twisty · 06-25-2009, 10:54 AM

He means horseshoe auto stick, like the 69 Camaro???

camarosscrazy · 06-25-2009, 10:56 AM

Go find an H2 they use this same setup and start modifing it to fit your camaro.

Vash · 06-25-2009, 11:00 AM

Well it might be able to be done but the console is not that wide.

Now I know what he means, it's like what the Million Mile Camaro has. (A 70 SS with over million on it).
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c.../photo_06.html

pck823 · 06-25-2009, 11:07 AM

Shifter like this.....

A switch is a switch is a switch...regardless of whether or not the button is depressed from the side or from pulling up. I agree that the decision to exclude this was a cost-driven decision, but for crissakes - this is supposed to be GM's hail mary pass to get the company on the road to recovery. I would have gladly paid another 50-100 to have a retro shifter that paid hommage to its big brother!

The Hummer shifter is close, but it's missing a leg and the button is still depressed from the side.

If no one offers one, I just might take this on as a project, but to do it right would basically require a new molded center console cover to allow for the two vertical legs of the staple shifter to travel back and forth. Might as well make it a ratchet shifter too....hmmm more tricky since its got Tapshift. Put a couple of microswitches in the shifter housing, re-route the switch leads from the steering column.....could be a good winter time project.

Vash · 06-25-2009, 11:08 AM

Well leave some things to the aftermarket. Write letter to Hurst and ask for it.

LDGn63 · 06-25-2009, 11:13 AM

i also wondered why not?
i MIGHT have bought an auto if it did!

Nova65 · 06-25-2009, 11:15 AM

i loved that shifter, my friend had that in his 71 Camaro RS

firestone_ss · 06-25-2009, 11:19 AM

yea well the hummers had all kind of issues with them still do in fact,mostly due to the interlock systems we use in cars today,hummer did not fare well and at roughly 600 for replacement be happy gm kept it simple

pck823 · 06-25-2009, 11:21 AM

Like some of you, it's my opinion that little things like that are what separate automobile manufacturers from car makers. When I worked at GM, there was a movie we were always forced to watch that basically asked us how we could bring the company to a point where, like Harley Davidson, had fans and customers that believed in the company so much to the point that they would get GM or Cheveolet tattooed on their bodies.

If anyone is listening....if you build an aftermarket shifter like this, I will buy it!!

MikeZ28 · 06-25-2009, 03:47 PM

I wish the stock Camaro auto shifter had a leather boot around it, like the manual, instead of plastic trim. My GTO automatic has a leather boot. LOL, reading what I just typed sounds funny, but I mean it.

TheClassicCarKid · 06-25-2009, 03:52 PM

I know what you mean. It's nice to have cool little design things. My Chevelle has the "staple" shifter, it has a barrel tach., and the gas cap is behind the license plate. I love things like that

06-25-2009, 10:49 AM	#1
pck823 Drives: Toyota Tundra Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West Georgia Posts: 50	Why no staple shifter? IMO, one thing that differentiated GM from the rest back in the 60's were little design 'quirks' like this, or the hidden fuel filler on a 57 Bel Air, or the cylindircal speedometer on a 70 Olds Toronado (needle was fixed, but speedo scale was printed on a barrel that rotated about a horizontal axis), or the column shifter on an old Riviera.... So why no staple shifter on the SS A6? Anyone know of any aftermarket attempts at this? If not, I might have to make my own! #55 on the list for: SIM 2SS/RS/A6/polished wheels

06-25-2009, 10:53 AM	#2
Camaro509 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Black Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,085	I am embarrassed to say I don't know what one is, got a link or a picture you can share? __________________ Understeer, Oversteer, Wheel Alignment (Camber etc), Torque, Horsepower, Camaro Fold for team 11108 to help find a cure! Folding@home Stanford's Research DC Program.

06-25-2009, 10:54 AM	#4
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	He means horseshoe auto stick, like the 69 Camaro??? __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

06-25-2009, 11:13 AM	#9
LDGn63 Drives: WNABEE Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 538 View My Garage	i also wondered why not? i MIGHT have bought an auto if it did! __________________ Why oh Why? Windshield=10" vertical mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield... it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin.... our collective MIRROR patch: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24612

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06-25-2009, 10:54 AM	#3
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	Well because of costs. The buttons go to a relay and then to the electronic servo in the tranny. It would just be too expensive to do it that way. The Hurst aftermarket and maybe a wood stick from the CTS Caddy lol might be only options.

06-25-2009, 10:56 AM	#5
camarosscrazy Drives: Money Pits Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MN Posts: 49 View My Garage	Go find an H2 they use this same setup and start modifing it to fit your camaro.

06-25-2009, 11:00 AM	#6
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	Well it might be able to be done but the console is not that wide. Now I know what he means, it's like what the Million Mile Camaro has. (A 70 SS with over million on it). http://www.superchevy.com/features/c.../photo_06.html

06-25-2009, 11:07 AM	#7
pck823 Drives: Toyota Tundra Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West Georgia Posts: 50	Shifter like this..... A switch is a switch is a switch...regardless of whether or not the button is depressed from the side or from pulling up. I agree that the decision to exclude this was a cost-driven decision, but for crissakes - this is supposed to be GM's hail mary pass to get the company on the road to recovery. I would have gladly paid another 50-100 to have a retro shifter that paid hommage to its big brother! The Hummer shifter is close, but it's missing a leg and the button is still depressed from the side. If no one offers one, I just might take this on as a project, but to do it right would basically require a new molded center console cover to allow for the two vertical legs of the staple shifter to travel back and forth. Might as well make it a ratchet shifter too....hmmm more tricky since its got Tapshift. Put a couple of microswitches in the shifter housing, re-route the switch leads from the steering column.....could be a good winter time project.

06-25-2009, 11:08 AM	#8
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	Well leave some things to the aftermarket. Write letter to Hurst and ask for it.

06-25-2009, 11:15 AM	#10
Nova65 Drives: 2010 2LT RS Auto IBM Black Int Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Azusa, CA Posts: 400	i loved that shifter, my friend had that in his 71 Camaro RS

06-25-2009, 11:19 AM	#11
firestone_ss Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 779	yea well the hummers had all kind of issues with them still do in fact,mostly due to the interlock systems we use in cars today,hummer did not fare well and at roughly 600 for replacement be happy gm kept it simple

06-25-2009, 11:21 AM	#12
pck823 Drives: Toyota Tundra Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West Georgia Posts: 50	Like some of you, it's my opinion that little things like that are what separate automobile manufacturers from car makers. When I worked at GM, there was a movie we were always forced to watch that basically asked us how we could bring the company to a point where, like Harley Davidson, had fans and customers that believed in the company so much to the point that they would get GM or Cheveolet tattooed on their bodies. If anyone is listening....if you build an aftermarket shifter like this, I will buy it!!

06-25-2009, 03:47 PM	#13
MikeZ28 Drives: '04 GTO, '00 Z28, '95 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 225	I wish the stock Camaro auto shifter had a leather boot around it, like the manual, instead of plastic trim. My GTO automatic has a leather boot. LOL, reading what I just typed sounds funny, but I mean it.