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View Poll Results: Which cam do you have or rather have?
TSP 231/236 17 38.64%
G6X3 LG Motorsports 18 40.91%
Other, please say type and why in a post 9 20.45%
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Old 11-14-2010, 03:06 AM   #1
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Another Cam Comparison

Looking for a comparison of the TSP 231/236 vs LG G6X3. I have LT headers, Vararam and exhaust. Would like to see if someone has dyno charts with near or the same supporting mods if at all possible. Thanks!!
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:39 AM   #2
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I just installed TSP 231/236 this weekend, finished it up last night..... I have LT headers, CAI, SLP exhaust. I am hoping to get it tuned this week.
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:58 PM   #3
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subscribed...also stik how does it sound? Can you load up a vid of it running?
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Old 11-14-2010, 06:28 PM   #4
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I did video from my phone this morning, i will upload it, it may be a little distorted.

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Old 11-14-2010, 07:08 PM   #5
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That actually sounds real good...does it run alright without a tune? Has it thrown any codes?
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:13 PM   #6
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I can't wait to see a true comparo even though were a little biased here at Southwest Speed.

We've been pushing LG cams out for a while now....but I completely respect and want to see what the 231 will do against it.

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Old 11-14-2010, 07:19 PM   #7
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sounds awesome!
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It runs ok, it took about 20 miles of driving for the computer to somewhat straighten itself out. I have a tune in it now which was before the cam, so alot of the codes were turned off then, so as of about an hour ago, no lights yet!. I havent really got on it hard, just taking it easy since i replaced the valve springs and pushrods with it.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:31 PM   #9
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Oh.... sorry about the dinging in the video..... its kinda loud.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:52 PM   #10
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Pics of Stik's Cam Install

Stik (and everyone that would like to look at pics), here are a few pics from the "historic" moment when you did the actual "install". I've got alot more but I'll pass those on to you in person.

















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Old 11-14-2010, 10:12 PM   #11
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Well, I'm in camaro south also, and I'm working on a g6x3 install now. Maybe soon I'll have results for you. It might be a bit before I actually get tuned though :(
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Sounds good. Did you do anything to keep the lifters up? Im planning to stick some steel rods in tomorrow on mine.


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It would be nice if we can get some low rpm driving (ie parking lot or road) videos looking at the tach and maybe out the window driving around to get a real idea on how drivable it is without switching the rear end gears. Of course, we need to bing the dyno charts in here also. I am real interested to see how the low end torque curves compare with similar supporting mods. Let the fun begin!!!
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Stik (and everyone that would like to look at pics), here are a few pics from the "historic" moment when you did the actual "install". I've got alot more but I'll pass those on to you in person.

















Thanks Adam for posting those... awesome pics

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Sounds good. Did you do anything to keep the lifters up? Im planning to stick some steel rods in tomorrow on mine.



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I used pen magnets. pull the pushrods and extend the magnets down to the lifters and when you hear the "click" of the magnet grabbing the lifter pull up slightly, like less than half inch and they'll stay put. Agkelly may have pics after we put the magnets in, U can PM him and see if he does.

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It would be nice if we can get some low rpm driving (ie parking lot or road) videos looking at the tach and maybe out the window driving around to get a real idea on how drivable it is without switching the rear end gears. Of course, we need to bing the dyno charts in here also. I am real interested to see how the low end torque curves compare with similar supporting mods. Let the fun begin!!!
I can try once i get the tune.. it may be next week before i can get it done tho.
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Thanks Adam for posting those... awesome pics



I used pen magnets. pull the pushrods and extend the magnets down to the lifters and when you hear the "click" of the magnet grabbing the lifter pull up slightly, like less than half inch and they'll stay put. Agkelly may have pics after we put the magnets in, U can PM him and see if he does.


I can try once i get the tune.. it may be next week before i can get it done tho.
Great, I cannot wait to see. I hope others will do the same with both cams.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:10 PM   #16
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As far as I know everyone gets their CAM's from Comp., so without have all the CAM specs. and comparing them individually in the same vehicle on a dyno. it's hard to tell which one is better.
For example; a larger CAM should produce more power, but, what about the rest of the engine upgrades rods, springs, rockers, etc...?
The choice in CAM and the other upgrades you do go hand, and hand along with what you're trying to accomplish overall. ie - Big CAM power, vs booster CAM for an SC.
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As far as I know everyone gets their CAM's from Comp., so without have all the CAM specs. and comparing them individually in the same vehicle on a dyno. it's hard to tell which one is better.
For example; a larger CAM should produce more power, but, what about the rest of the engine upgrades rods, springs, rockers, etc...?
The choice in CAM and the other upgrades you do go hand, and hand along with what you're trying to accomplish overall. ie - Big CAM power, vs booster CAM for an SC.
What cam did you get? Can you please post your dyno? I didn't really say what is better, I just want to see some comparison in the curves and feel of the cams. For instance, one can have a bit more less torque on the low end then the other. LG keeps their specs secret so cant really compare that away.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:45 PM   #18
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Sounds good. Did you do anything to keep the lifters up? Im planning to stick some steel rods in tomorrow on mine.


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All you have to do to keep the lifters up is this: After you remove the rocker arms, pushrods, and timing chain, just spin the cam by hand several times. The cam lobes themselves will push the lifters up and they will stay up. I did mine and left it overnight and the lifters did not come down at all. Now remove the cam retainer plate and pull the cam out
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Not always pal, u can be in a world of poo when a lifter drops onto the windage tray
Seen it happen 2 times now since 1999, I would NOT do a cam change without the rods or pen magnets.
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Not always pal, u can be in a world of poo when a lifter drops onto the windage tray
Seen it happen 2 times now since 1999, I would NOT do a cam change without the rods or pen magnets.
+1000!

Totally not worth it taking the chance.

Best part is that you can make your own rods by taking a 36" piece of 1/4-3/16" Steel from Lowes/THD/ETC, cut it in half and use it to keep the lifters up while removing/reinstalling the cam.

It'll cost ya a whole $3.

Tell me that's not the smartest money you'll ever spend after trying to get the lifter that fell.....

Best of luck and let's see some results!
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i have/had the tsp 231/236.... wish i would of went with the g6x3
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i have/had the tsp 231/236.... wish i would of went with the g6x3
What did you not like about it?
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not big enough. lol.

it was entirely way too tame for me.
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i have/had the tsp 231/236.... wish i would of went with the g6x3
Is this a D/D or not? I used a TSP 233/233 in my 4th gen and I loved in it my D/D.

How much bigger is the G6X3?

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Is this a D/D or not? I used a TSP 233/233 in my 4th gen and I loved in it my D/D.

How much bigger is the G6X3?

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20,000 miles in 6 months... you determine if my camaro is a daily driver or not

a 4th gen has a ls1.... this is an ls3.... two totally different motors. Generally speaking, the 233/233 in an ls1 is going to be more radical (less "driveable") than a 231/236 cam in an ls3. You are comparing apples to oranges there.

I believe the g6x3 has one or two more degrees on the intake... I can't remember the rest off the top of my head.... and it is on a narrow lsa.
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