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Nvincent4708 · 04-20-2011, 01:19 PM

In the June 2011 Edition of the HotRod Magazine there is an article

"Got a '10-'11 Camaro? Here's What's Gonna Break"

For all of us doing mods..I think this is a copy we should pick up. Some good stuff.

I would post the article, but I have a feeling it's copyright infringement...(ADDED LINK BELOW)

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/g...e/viewall.html

TheHorse13 · 04-20-2011, 01:46 PM

Any items you can list?

Smoky10 · 04-20-2011, 01:50 PM

I will be picking a copy up.

Murph0408 · 04-20-2011, 01:52 PM

save me 5 bucks and start spillin the beans, OP

Sawyer · 04-20-2011, 01:56 PM

Nvincent4708 · 04-20-2011, 02:19 PM

[LS3]
Lifters (7000RPM) - Pump Up Issue
Timing Chain Tensioner (550HP) - Fails
Oiling (6500RPM) - Can't keep up
Rods (600HP) - Break
Head Gasket (600HP) - Fail
Pistons (600-625HP) - Fail (Detonation / excessive boost)
Crank (900HP) - Good until this point
Exhaust Valves(10PSI) -Fail
Fuel System (450HP) - Can't keep up

[L99]
AFM (450HP, High Lift / RPM) - Delete and convert to conventional
Valves (high lift) - Float, Replace

[Both]
Rockers(high lift) - Fail (Bearings Explode)
Balancer (Cam/RPM) - Explodes

[TR6060]
Main Shaft(Stock+HP) - Output Shaft Failure (This is known of..Recalled too)
Rear Support Bearing(650-680hp) - Fails
Synchro Rings (525-625) - Failure
Clutch (600) - Fails

[4L80]
TCM(Any Mods) - Recalibrate
Torque Management - Recalibrate PROPERLY
Torque Converter (500hp) - Can fail

[IRS / Driveshaft]
Suspension Flex(450hp) - Toe Arm Failure
Rear Subframe(475hp) - Flex, Use Subframe Bushings
Gears (500hp) - Fail
Halfshafts (500hp/Wheelhop) - Fail
Posi (Various) - Can Slip / Fail
Driveshaft (Over 5,000 DRIVESHAFT RPM) - Fail

I might just scan and post..depending how mad the moderators may get

Jayson9 · 04-20-2011, 02:25 PM

Sounds like GM hit out of the park again!

TheHorse13 · 04-20-2011, 02:31 PM

I see that HotRod also did this for Dodge and the failures seem to line up very evenly. In other words, high horsepower may wear/break/explode stuff.

From this list and the one I saw for Dodge, nothing creeps out at me that says epic fail on the part of the manufacturer other than the known TSB items.

Thanks for hookin us up with the info!

Bad70supreme · 04-20-2011, 02:37 PM

Whatever... how many vettes and camaros are pushing these motor's to 5-700hp with no problems. Most N/A cammed and bolt-on cars are running fine... is that a list of things that CAN happen, shure but anything can happen at anytime even on a bone stock engine! Hell look at old school engines, they had all kinds of weak points and were much worse off, but how many 1970 500+hp big blocks run the streets and track for years with stock bottom ends! Nothing like scaring people out of modding your car!

Nvincent4708 · 04-20-2011, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHorse13

I see that HotRod also did this for Dodge and the failures seem to line up very evenly. In other words, high horsepower may wear/break/explode stuff.

From this list and the one I saw for Dodge, nothing creeps out at me that says epic fail on the part of the manufacturer other than the known TSB items.

Thanks for hookin us up with the info!

No problem, the article goes more into depth with solutions and such for these issues.

Nvincent4708 · 04-20-2011, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Whatever... how many vettes and camaros are pushing these motor's to 5-700hp with no problems. Most N/A cammed and bolt-on cars are running fine... is that a list of things that CAN happen, shure but anything can happen at anytime even on a bone stock engine! Hell look at old school engines, they had all kinds of weak points and were much worse off, but how many 1970 500+hp big blocks run the streets and track for years with stock bottom ends! Nothing like scaring people out of modding your car!

Agreed, I just figured the users on the forum would like to know about this bit of information. I didn't intend to post it to scare, but to inform what may happen and what to possibly expect.

speedster · 04-20-2011, 02:41 PM

If you are willing to spend the money on the engine to increase power, you had better be ready to spend money on ALL supporting systems. That is the price of performance. If not, go to either a ZL-1 or an aftermarket group that sells their higher HP cars with a warranty. (e.g. LPE, THR, Nickey, Berger, Hennessey, etc.)

Bad70supreme · 04-20-2011, 02:42 PM

No flame on you man! Thats cool that they at lest show fixes for the issue's but they make it seem like mod your engine and expect it to break.

DarkObsession · 04-20-2011, 02:49 PM

If that article is accurate, it sounds like a MUST READ for anyone modding their car.

Thanks for posting this info!

04-20-2011, 01:19 PM	#1
Nvincent4708 Drives: N/A Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 25,856 View My Garage	Hot Rod Magazine Camaro Article In the June 2011 Edition of the HotRod Magazine there is an article "Got a '10-'11 Camaro? Here's What's Gonna Break" For all of us doing mods..I think this is a copy we should pick up. Some good stuff. I would post the article, but I have a feeling it's copyright infringement...(ADDED LINK BELOW) http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/g...e/viewall.html Last edited by Nvincent4708; 08-09-2011 at 11:41 AM. Reason: Posted article link

04-20-2011, 02:37 PM	#9
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	Whatever... how many vettes and camaros are pushing these motor's to 5-700hp with no problems. Most N/A cammed and bolt-on cars are running fine... is that a list of things that CAN happen, shure but anything can happen at anytime even on a bone stock engine! Hell look at old school engines, they had all kinds of weak points and were much worse off, but how many 1970 500+hp big blocks run the streets and track for years with stock bottom ends! Nothing like scaring people out of modding your car! __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

04-20-2011, 02:41 PM	#12
speedster SST... Drives: SST Camaro 2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Coast of Florida Posts: 5,927 View My Garage	If you are willing to spend the money on the engine to increase power, you had better be ready to spend money on ALL supporting systems. That is the price of performance. If not, go to either a ZL-1 or an aftermarket group that sells their higher HP cars with a warranty. (e.g. LPE, THR, Nickey, Berger, Hennessey, etc.) __________________

04-20-2011, 02:42 PM	#13
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	No flame on you man! Thats cool that they at lest show fixes for the issue's but they make it seem like mod your engine and expect it to break. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

04-20-2011, 02:49 PM	#14
DarkObsession Drives: 2011 Camaro SS2/LS3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Jose Posts: 329	If that article is accurate, it sounds like a MUST READ for anyone modding their car. Thanks for posting this info! __________________ 2011 Chevrolet Camaro SS2/LS3 - Pretty much bone stock (SLP SkipShift Eliminator, GTO clutch fluid reservoir mod) - 13.025 @ 110.492 MPH (12s?? ) 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (retired) - Cam, exhaust, CAI, 12 PSI, tune - 13.465 @ 101.04 MPH

04-20-2011, 01:46 PM	#2
TheHorse13 Drives: 2011 Black SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 1,116	Any items you can list?

04-20-2011, 01:50 PM	#3
Smoky10 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Navarre, FL Posts: 745	I will be picking a copy up.

04-20-2011, 01:52 PM	#4
Murph0408 Drives: 2LT Black '10 Camaro, 2000 Durango Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT Posts: 373 View My Garage	save me 5 bucks and start spillin the beans, OP

04-20-2011, 01:56 PM	#5
Sawyer Drives: '13 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,345 View My Garage

04-20-2011, 02:19 PM	#6
Nvincent4708 Drives: N/A Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 25,856 View My Garage	[LS3] Lifters (7000RPM) - Pump Up Issue Timing Chain Tensioner (550HP) - Fails Oiling (6500RPM) - Can't keep up Rods (600HP) - Break Head Gasket (600HP) - Fail Pistons (600-625HP) - Fail (Detonation / excessive boost) Crank (900HP) - Good until this point Exhaust Valves(10PSI) -Fail Fuel System (450HP) - Can't keep up [L99] AFM (450HP, High Lift / RPM) - Delete and convert to conventional Valves (high lift) - Float, Replace [Both] Rockers(high lift) - Fail (Bearings Explode) Balancer (Cam/RPM) - Explodes [TR6060] Main Shaft(Stock+HP) - Output Shaft Failure (This is known of..Recalled too) Rear Support Bearing(650-680hp) - Fails Synchro Rings (525-625) - Failure Clutch (600) - Fails [4L80] TCM(Any Mods) - Recalibrate Torque Management - Recalibrate PROPERLY Torque Converter (500hp) - Can fail [IRS / Driveshaft] Suspension Flex(450hp) - Toe Arm Failure Rear Subframe(475hp) - Flex, Use Subframe Bushings Gears (500hp) - Fail Halfshafts (500hp/Wheelhop) - Fail Posi (Various) - Can Slip / Fail Driveshaft (Over 5,000 DRIVESHAFT RPM) - Fail I might just scan and post..depending how mad the moderators may get

04-20-2011, 02:25 PM	#7
Jayson9 Drives: 2SS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 253	Sounds like GM hit out of the park again!

04-20-2011, 02:31 PM	#8
TheHorse13 Drives: 2011 Black SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 1,116	I see that HotRod also did this for Dodge and the failures seem to line up very evenly. In other words, high horsepower may wear/break/explode stuff. From this list and the one I saw for Dodge, nothing creeps out at me that says epic fail on the part of the manufacturer other than the known TSB items. Thanks for hookin us up with the info!

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