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Old 03-22-2009, 11:58 PM   #1
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Exclamation EDMUNDS shootout: Camaro vs. Mustang vs. Challenger!!!

Inside Line Compares Mustang GT, Camaro SS, and Challenger R/T

find out who the winner is .......................

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

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Old 03-23-2009, 12:00 AM   #2
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Repost but its a reall good review
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:24 AM   #3
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I also love how all 3 cars are similarly equipped but the Camaro still came out their top pick AND the cheapest... and can't for get this:

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Best review to date. Makes some great points to the people complaining about the interior and rear visibility.

This car is meant to be driven hard and driven fast - not sit in a show room so that all of your buddies can look at the interior.

It's as simple as that.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:35 AM   #5
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Commando, the bumper on your sig is just killer, cant wait to see what the aftermarket will have
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LOL at the Mustang turned the opposite direction from the SS and the RT in the vid... I gues it didn't want anyone to see its little 'engine'.
umm.... the 4.6 is bigger than either the LS3 and the Hemi.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:48 AM   #7
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umm.... the 4.6 is bigger than either the LS3 and the Hemi.
The Hemi is a 5.7l and the LS3 is a 6.2l...


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Old 03-23-2009, 01:57 AM   #8
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The Hemi is a 5.7l and the LS3 is a 6.2l...


Am I misunderstanding something?
have you seen a 4.6??
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:14 AM   #9
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The wars are back indeed. This review sounds much more accepting of the Camaro than the stand-alone review from Friday. They've now gone the other way on the feeling of weight and agility and now say the Camaro actually does feel pretty agile. That's very good to know! They still hate the wheel and plastics, but since no one else has really made that complaint and Cars.com said the plastics, though hard, were still actually very good, I'll take those criticisms with a grain of salt. Visibility, hopefully it is just something I can get used to.

What about the other cars? This shootout definitely reaffirmed my positions on them. The Challenger is stupid, slow, plodding, doddering, low quality, obese, nothing more than a style statement. The Mustang, on the other hand, is very tempting. I really think I should test drive one before deciding. The lower weight and smaller size are definitely upsides for me, and I liked the interior of the one I sat in. Despite its lack of power it is absolutely a competitive rival to the Camaro, and I have to respect Ford for what they've been able to do with a solid rear axle. A worthy competitor indeed.

I'll consider the Mustang along with the Camaro, but for now I guess I'll have to assume Edmunds is right - Camaro wins!
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:11 AM   #10
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Unfair review in my opinion. Lets compare it to a srt8, ss, and whatever the highest model of the new mustang is. this isn't the 60's here this is a new century . get all the high models in on it
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Camaro wins. woot!
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Interesting reviews. I gotta say I'm a little surprised at how well the Mustang does. I mean it's over 100 HP down in power. To bad it's just another Mustang.
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I don't get why Ford won't ditch the archaic rear axle. With up-to-date architecture that car could kick major butt, and not just in the muscle car segment. I definitely like where they're going with the 2010 model, but solid rear axle in 21st century is just a big NO for me.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:25 AM   #14
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Unfair review in my opinion. Lets compare it to a srt8, ss, and whatever the highest model of the new mustang is. this isn't the 60's here this is a new century . get all the high models in on it
can't compare them it's out of price range... thats the rule on these here forums.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:25 AM   #15
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Unfair review in my opinion. Lets compare it to a srt8, ss, and whatever the highest model of the new mustang is. this isn't the 60's here this is a new century . get all the high models in on it
The R/T was already the most expensive in the bunch. The SRT is considered to be on the level of the GT500. There is no Camaro equivalent (until a z28). Even if you throw in the much more expensive SRT8, the Camaro will still win. It's still heavier, we've seen the drag times... Camaro still wins. And although it add's brembos and better tires, those are things the SS already has. I don't see how that would change much of anything. It would still be bringing up the rear but with less of a gap.
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I don't get why Ford won't ditch the archaic rear axle. With up-to-date architecture that car could kick major butt, and not just in the muscle car segment. I definitely like where they're going with the 2010 model, but rear axle in 21st century is just a big NO for me.

because it has worked for 45 years maybe? i dont get why people dont ditch the butter knife either...

sra is obviously capable of handling just fine. keeps costs down and a very reliable piece.
ask these guys if they have any issues getting around the track with their sra's
it's been proven time and time again though the SRA is old, it works just fine.

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because it has worked for 45 years maybe? i dont get why people dont ditch the butter knife either...

sra is obviously capable of handling just fine. keeps costs down and a very reliable piece.
ask these guys if they have any issues getting around the track with their sra's
it's been proven time and time again though the SRA is old, it works just fine.

A horse worked just fine for transportation for more than few thousand years.

Keeping the costs down is another thing, though. However, if the manufacturer is gunning for high performance, saving on vital parts like suspension is not the best approach, IMO.
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all theese reviews ....

why is the camaro ss being compared to the challenger r/t ? isn't the SS's rival the GT500 and the SRT8's ?
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The Hemi is a 5.7l and the LS3 is a 6.2l...


Am I misunderstanding something?
OHC's take up more space than cam in block designs. So the engine itself tends to be larger, regardless of its displacement.

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can't compare them it's out of price range... thats the rule on these here forums.
Well since the average buyer goes by price it seems a pretty reasonable way to compare for me. If I have an out the door budget of $40 000, including tax, title, license, etc the GT500 and SRT8 are beyond my reach. The R/T, GT, and SS aren't.


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why did they option out the rt so much ....rediculous

and no the challenger isnt plain stupid and just a style statement. wow the opinions some people have....are just that opinions.
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why is the camaro ss being compared to the challenger r/t ? isn't the SS's rival the GT500 and the SRT8's ?
Because the SRT8 is WAYYYYYY too much money to offer zero gains and in cases,less performance than the bargain priced SS. The GT500 has no pony car rival and it costs wayyyyy more than a SS,but at least it offers more performance.
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Unfair review in my opinion. Lets compare it to a srt8, ss, and whatever the highest model of the new mustang is. this isn't the 60's here this is a new century . get all the high models in on it
Are you kidding.. They compared muscle cars of the same price range..

You want to go as high as a GT500 in price, then you compare that to a Corvette. The SRT8 is more than $10,000 more than a base SS, add $10,000 more in mods to the base Camaro SS and it can clobber a stock GT500 leaving it in the dust..
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I say go ahead compare the SS to SRT8 and GT500, but $ may be end up being a big factor.
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