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Old 10-27-2011, 11:14 AM   #1
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Huffers Synergy Green 436ci/4L80e F1R SS Camaro

So I figured it was about time that I start my own build thread to document the build of my car. I am a 42 year old reformed drag racer who grew up on old school Chevy motors and classic muscle. I owned a bunch of 1st gen Camaros and a few 2nd gen camaros back in the day but had moved away from muscle cars into Harley Davidsons and other toys.

When the 5th Gen came out...a friend of mine bought one and fell in love with his....he raved about the power and handling etc so I ended up saying What the Heck and bought one with the intention of keeping it as a weekend toy/cruiser that I could wash and wax it and play around with it.

I should know myself better by now.....because speed is in my blood and I even tore down my Harley with 110 miles on it and bored it, stroked it and put ported heads on it. Just can't get away from it I guess.

The posts below will catch up to where the car is today.....that was Phase I.....Phase II is going to take it to an entirely different level I hope...at least that is the plan.


Build 1




Magazine Cover Car!
Build 2

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Old 10-27-2011, 11:14 AM   #2
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I started my journey with a couple of the most common mods there is.....Long Tubes and a cold air kit.....I went with Kooks 1 7/8 because they were high quality and Made in the USA which I liked....as well as the Borla Stinger catback and a RotoFab intake. The Kooks/Borla combo sounds absolutely sexy to me.....deep and a nice rumble without a blatty sound like so many of the systems seem to produce.

First trip to the track produced a best of 12.98 after the Longtubes and the cold air and a Janetty mail order tune.....with an M6 and a 2.0 60' time I was pleased and pissed at the same time. So I started making some calls and ended up at the doorstep of Vengeance Racing.
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:22 AM   #3
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Here is what happened there. I started with a basic Whipple setup.....nothing elaborate and wanted to keep the cost down. Well....I hate doing things halfway so I ended up putting a LPE twin fuel pump setup into it, an RPS/Hendrix Twin Carbon clutch setup, Pedders rear suspension upgrades, a Snow Performance Meth Kit and a few other doo dads.


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2011 Supercharged Synergy Green Camaro SS


This Build Consists of the Following Modifications:
· Whipple 2.9L Supercharger
· 3.5” Pulley with Carbon Jack shaft cover and inlet tube
· LPE Twin in Tank Fuel System
· 60lb injectors flowed by FIC
· Vengeance Racing Custom Stage II Blower Camshaft
· TEA Dual Gold Spring Kit with Ti Retainers
· Comp 7.400 Hardened Pushrods
· Katech C5R Timing Chain
· Meiling Hi Volume Oil Pump
· Comp Trunion Kit
· Snow Performance Methonal Injection System
· 180* thermostat
· Pfadt Lowering Springs
· Pfadt Performance Sway Bars
· Pfadt Rear Tie Rods with Bushings
· Pfadt Rear Trailing Arms with Bushings
· Pfadt Solid Rear Subframe Bushings
· Pfadt Polyurethane Diff Bushings
· RPS/Hendrix Engineering Street Twin Carbon Slayer Edition Clutch
· Hendrix Engineering 9” Conversion with Strange 3rd Member with 3.89 Gears
· MGW Short Throw Shifter with Race Knob
· LPE LNC 2000 Two Step
· SJM Line Lock
· Vengeance Racing Custom Valve Covers with Coil Relocation Kit
· Autometer Carbon Fuel Pressure and Boost Gauges


670 RWHP 607 RWTQ.....550 RWTQ @ 2600 RPM
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:24 AM   #4
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These pictures will document some of the work done as everyone likes staring at build thread porn.






I went with a Comp Cam Stage II Blower Cam that Vengeance spec'd out. It has great drivability and street manners and pulls hard right to the rev limiter...which we left stock for now as it is still a cast piston engine at this point.



TEA Dual Gold Valvesprings are being swapped


One head completed







Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch Going in...This clutch is amazing!!


I have to say I totally dig the way the Whipple looks, feels etc. This is an INCREDIBLE choice for a street car....gobs of bottom end torque and an instant smile when you can be rolling down the road in 3rd gear and BLAZE the tires!! I really am 42 but I guess still a kid at heart because that makes me laugh out loud.


Tank is dropped and ready for the LPE twin in tanks


Charlie is buttoning up the connections for the whipple



Pfadt Stage III Suspension laid out ready for install! I debated back and forth on just going with lowering springs to save money and I ended up taking the cheap way out. Mistake.....A future post will show the drag specific coilovers that I have since installed.


Cradle dropped and suspension going on. One of the best mods you can do to a 5th Gen is a set of solid bushings from Pfadt. They tighten up the car nicely and even if you didn't feel how loose it was before, you will realize it afterwards. The springs an sways are AWESOME. Although I ended up changing the rear sway out for a Pfadt Drag Bar...that again is a future post.


Cradle back in and looking sharp


Charlie mounting the Snow Performance Meth Kit




On the dyno getting ready to make 670rwhp on a conservative tune! 65 This number was with the stock differential. We dyno'd again after the 9" and lost a few horsepower but nothing like what you might have read. When you take into account different conditions...I'd say around 10hp at most.

The 9" conversion arrived from Hendrix Engineering


Side by Side Comparison of a Stock 3rd member vs. the Strange 9 inch


Stock 2 piece driveshaft vs our new one piece from the Drive Shaft Shop


9 inch set up in place

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Old 10-27-2011, 11:24 AM   #5
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Ah, this will be great. Glad you decided to do a build thread !

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Old 10-27-2011, 11:47 AM   #6
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Ah, this will be great. Glad you decided to do a build thread !

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Yeah I wished I had started on it from the beginning...I have a LOT of catching up to do.

Phase I was on the stock longblock.....Ron wrestled my wallet away from me and we are starting the build for a 427 RHS block and a 4L80e transmission.....and I am considering a Procharger F1R to replace the Whipple. I love the Whipple for a street car but they seem to max out around 800 to 825 hp.....everyone goes nitrous from that point on but I don't really want to do that.

So BIG motor....BIG blower.....BIG power and hopefully a LOW 9 second time slip in Florida in March.


So......after all that work by Charlie and the Vengeance gang......it's ALIVE!



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Old 10-27-2011, 11:54 AM   #7
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I am not much for "bling" so this is about as far as I will get but I wanted to snazz up the engine compartment a little bit. The carbon intake tube and shaft cover are available from Whipple although they do a poor job of advertising them. I couldn't find a part number anywhere but Kevin at Vengeance called them to find out.

The valve covers are obviously a Vengeance item and the coil relocation was done by them. Cleans up the engine bay nicely.

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Old 10-27-2011, 11:58 AM   #8
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Autometer Carbon Gauges in the ****pit. I prefer simple and am a fan of less is more...so these gauges are kind of old school....they don't read your ECM, they don't log anything, they don't blink or make noise...they just read the boost and the fuel pressure.

Simple....just the way I like it.

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A few completed pictures to show the stance of the car...it looks really sweet....very fast just standing still and once you get used to the lowered look, a normal SS looks like a 4x4 truck it sits up so high.

The Pfadt sway bars and springs are a HUGE improvement to the way this thing handles......THIS is how it should come right from GM. The car handles like a turd stock.....but with a simple Stage III Pfadt kit...it's a completely different car.

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Old 10-27-2011, 12:31 PM   #10
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:40 PM   #11
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Very nice build, look forward to march at the strip.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:06 PM   #12
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Very nice build, look forward to march at the strip.

Me too. 1st pass through we ran a 3.875" pulley but this was way low.....the Whipple chart does not take into account the longtubes and camshaft that we installed. The 3.875 only produced about 6 to 7 psi of boost instead of the 10 we were expecting.

We dropped it down to a 3.5" pulley and it's just a touch over 10psi.....probably 11 psi at max rpm.

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Awesome car already and only going to get better...

I'm glad you started this, and I'll certainly be following along... Looking forward to meeting you in person at the Fest or somewhere else and seeing this car in person...

Good Luck With It....
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:44 PM   #14
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Awesome car already and only going to get better...

I'm glad you started this, and I'll certainly be following along... Looking forward to meeting you in person at the Fest or somewhere else and seeing this car in person...

Good Luck With It....
Ditto for me...great group of people on this forum, particularly in the FI section.....we're like our own little island of misfit toys to steal a phrase.

I am trying to document everything I've done but I may be confusing everyone with the title....that's where it's going....ordered the RHS block today.
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Ditto for me...great group of people on this forum, particularly in the FI section.....we're like our own little island of misfit toys to steal a phrase.

I am trying to document everything I've done but I may be confusing everyone with the title....that's where it's going....ordered the RHS block today.
Misfit toy owners fits really well....

If this thread is going to get as big as I think it might, you might want to have a mod add a post at the top of page one to use for a picture and significant event directory... You can link videos and pictures and whatnot so you and other can find relevant items easily... I wish I had done mine from the start, as it took a couple of weeks in my thread to go back and insert all of them... Worth it to me though...
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:35 AM   #16
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One of the many neat little money sucking add-ons is the SJM Line Lock. My car being an M6 it can be a little awkward doing the burnout and keeping the car straight and such...at least for me.....so I installed a nice little line lock setup from SJM. I think I bought it from someone on the board but honestly I cannot remember.....you can google em and find em for sale. It tucks in nicely and we have the switch neatly tucked into the glove box so you would never know it's there until it's GO time.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:23 AM   #17
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Nice build. I have been eyeballing a whipple for my car. Did you do a dyno pull with the 3.875" pulley or just with the 3.5"?
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Nice build. I have been eyeballing a whipple for my car. Did you do a dyno pull with the 3.875" pulley or just with the 3.5"?
Nope.....took it for a street ride and they saw the boost only hit 6 and ordered a new pulley right away. I would think upper 500 range even maybe low 600s?
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:12 AM   #21
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So now that the car was finished it was time to venture forth to Pony Wars to see what it would do....I bought some Bogarts last minute as a nice deal showed up in the marketplace and I left the ET streets on Z06 wheels home in favor of the Bogarts.



Things started going south quickly once I got there......you can see my stock wheels on front.....I literally got the front tires mounted onto my Bogarts on the WAY to Pony Wars....so never test fitted the wheels to the car.

Those freaking Roller Skate brake pads bit me in the butt.....no chance of fitting these to the car now without a hacksaw or a grinder. Screw it...I wanted to race so I put the radials on the front in spite of the bias ply in the back.

Several people were very helpful and warned me that my car could possible explode if I had radials on the front and bias on the back....I wanted to race badly enough to chance spontaneous combustion so off I went to the staging lanes. I should mention that I have run mixed tires before and it's not that big of a deal as long as you expect the swaying that comes with it.....instead I wanted them to think that I wanted to race more than I didn't want to spontaneously combust.

So my first run up......expecting to run 10s........ummm no.
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On my first run.......shitty launch....first time racing an M6 on slicks so I bogged it badly but who cares....let's run it out the back door for mph right......

So I am rowing through the gears...surely impressing everyone with my god given natural ability to drive a stick better than anyone on the planet.....and then it happened.

Top of 3rd gear the car stutters hard like it hit the rev limiter.....way cool...I'm such a drag racing maniac I'm bouncing the limiter and that's cool right.....so I shift 4th and prepare to FLY across the finish line and BAM...the car practically stutters so bad it shuts off. I coast across the finish line to a 12.1 at like 100mph or something like that.

Long story short...run a 2nd time and same thing.....this time I got out of it in 3rd gear as I am not sure what was causing the stutter so best to shut it down. After cursing Vengeance, Chevrolet, small puppies and a few of the fast cars in the crowd....I ate a cheeseburger and left for the hotel.

Needless to say my first trip to the track did not turn out like I expected. Vengeance came and got the car the following Tuesday and assured me that it would be taken care of...and by then I was over my baby fit so hope sprang anew.

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We are running a Meth kit on my car and it...at that time..was the first with a Whipple. They told us to mount it as far from the SC inlet as we could....so we put it back into the MAF tube....it doesn't come on until we're in boost so surely the massive suction in the air tube would pull the meth towards the engine and not let any get onto the MAF...which is upwind in the tube, albeit not far. In hindsight....it looks silly to put the nozzle there, and it probably was but in the scope of the size of this build....small hiccup and easily fixed. If I were not intent on taking it straight to Pony Wars without any shakedown runs then we would have found it and fixed it before ever showing up at a track. No time.....

Apparently not so much.....the Meth was getting on the MAF and freaking it out which pulled timing and did weird things to the fuel etc. So it fouled the plugs badly and would make the car stutter when the Meth sprayed.

So a few hours, some new plugs, a relocated Meth nozzle and the car was better than ever but cudos to Ron at Vengeance because while he was convinced that it was fixed....he wanted to take the car to the track and run the wideband on it and fine tune the tune if necessary and just make sure it was race ready.

I was happy again...the sun was shining and the skies turned blue now that my car wasn't an utter disaster. More to come.
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huff, i will post some of my ideas for ya...also getting ready for build..get rid of meth., i am getting rid of mine..did not do much for my iats shooting 50/50..3 inches off the kb tube..i built a tank that fits in area that i will cut out of front bumper section..it has approx 20 ft of heat exchanger tubing running thru it and then goes back into the he and bacjk to sc..i have a 4.5 inch cap that i can remove and pour 2-3 bags ice...this should cool it for a couple runs...i,m not concerned for iats daily driving...
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tank, and he lines b4 they are installed inside tank...no contaminates will ever getting into the sc,...unlike jamie,s car he is adding ice to his i/c , i am only cooling the water as it travels thru the lines inside the icebox...
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if you remove front facia you will see that stubby bumper..this fits after we cut out a 26inc section between frame horns..if you look at icebox , you will see the tabs on front and on top..this will bolt into the remaining bumper..
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