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cdawg705 · 07-02-2012, 04:09 PM

Sell me on why I should spend the extra $$$ on American Racing instead of going with Kooks? They look nearly identical to Kooks other than the high velocity spike and one primary tube kicks back on the passenger side more than kooks. Is there any proof of HP difference? I just want to make the best purchase for my car and do it right the first time. Also I'll be buying 2" primary's if that makes a difference in the reason why I should buy one over the other. Thanks for the help guys.

*GTAHVIT* · 07-02-2012, 04:19 PM

These two are so close it's hard to say one is "better"

I went with ARH and haven't had a single problem or complaint.

I think it really comes down to two things. Calling them and speaking to them about your build, and hunting around to try and find a good price from one of their dealers.

My 2 cents.

Brianskeet · 07-02-2012, 04:21 PM

Both outstanding companies. I went the ARH route because I like their conections better, but you will find plenty of people that like Kooks conections better.

NDC123 · 07-02-2012, 04:45 PM

ARH here

mikeSS · 07-02-2012, 04:54 PM

for me its what my shop has in stock. would have went either. but there had kooks in stock.

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TRock · 07-02-2012, 05:09 PM

You will not be disappointed in the ARH. ang if you get them from Phastek you can use the code for camaro5 discount of 5%, which will take about a hundred dollars off the cost.

Apex Motorsports · 07-02-2012, 05:18 PM

The good news is that you can't go wrong with any of the big names; ARH, Stainless Works, and Kooks are all going to be pretty close to identical in terms of performance and quality. If you have any questions do not hesitate to hit me up.

A.R. Headers · 07-02-2012, 05:39 PM

CDawg705, Not sure if this matters to you but GM themselves chose us for all the COPO Camaro's that'll be terrorizing dragstrips nationwide this summer. Ford uses ARH on all the Cobra Jets and Dodge used us exclusively on all the V10 Drag Pack Challengers. ARH is also the spec headers for the 50 Dodge Viper ACR-X's built to run the Viper Cup. Google all these great cars for more insight. If you have questions please feel free to ask. Thanks

Nick

cdawg705 · 07-02-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by A.R. Headers

CDawg705, Not sure if this matters to you but GM themselves chose us for all the COPO Camaro's that'll be terrorizing dragstrips nationwide this summer. Ford uses ARH on all the Cobra Jets and Dodge used us exclusively on all the V10 Drag Pack Challengers. ARH is also the spec headers for the 50 Dodge Viper ACR-X's built to run the Viper Cup. Google all these great cars for more insight. If you have questions please feel free to ask. Thanks

Nick

It definitely matters and I know both are top notch companies, just looking for some proof in the pudding so to speak. I mean does the extra scavenging really make that big of a difference? Are we talking about a few HP and a few ft/lbs of torque or 8-10????

litle88 · 07-02-2012, 06:22 PM

Kooks here!

2" on the T/A
And 1 7/8's on the SS

Cant go wrong with kooks just my .2

uniqueskillz · 07-02-2012, 07:05 PM

I had arh on mines and loved it. Sounded soooo such better. I had cats with x pipe. Took them off to install twin turbos and added some shorties. Either one you choose you'll be happy. The're both top notch and you can't go wrong.

cdawg705 · 07-02-2012, 07:47 PM

I'll be doing the short system, or will the FlowMaster AMT X-pipe make a difference in sound and performance?

101fng · 07-02-2012, 07:55 PM

kooks and ARH are both quality headers. if i were to have to make the same decision (assuming the primary and collector sizes were the same), it would come down to price.

07-02-2012, 04:09 PM	#1
cdawg705 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS M6 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 182	KOOKS or AMERICAN RACING Sell me on why I should spend the extra $$$ on American Racing instead of going with Kooks? They look nearly identical to Kooks other than the high velocity spike and one primary tube kicks back on the passenger side more than kooks. Is there any proof of HP difference? I just want to make the best purchase for my car and do it right the first time. Also I'll be buying 2" primary's if that makes a difference in the reason why I should buy one over the other. Thanks for the help guys. __________________ 2010 1SS, TR6060, TSP Forged LS3 418 Stroker Tuned by Blue Thunder Racing. (stock heads, intake, TB and rockers), Brian Tooley platinum springs, Mantic 9000, Barton shifter , BMR 1" drop, Siebon TS2

07-02-2012, 04:19 PM	#2
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	These two are so close it's hard to say one is "better" I went with ARH and haven't had a single problem or complaint. I think it really comes down to two things. Calling them and speaking to them about your build, and hunting around to try and find a good price from one of their dealers. My 2 cents. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

07-02-2012, 04:21 PM	#3
Brianskeet Brianskeet Drives: RJTC 1SS RS L99 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crestview FL Posts: 771 View My Garage	Both outstanding companies. I went the ARH route because I like their conections better, but you will find plenty of people that like Kooks conections better. __________________ ARH 1 7/8 coated LT, High flows, Corsa L99 exhaust, Vmax CNC throttle body, Elite Engineering catch can and tunnel brace, C.A.I. Apex Washer relocation and scoop, Janetty Tune, MSD wires, DEI heat shields, RB rotors and pads, Mike the powder coater calipers, pedders lines, Forgestar F14's, Gorilla nutz, MTI spoiler finished by Gary, Gary's Customz Bow Ties, Side Markers and Tails tinted, Bezels matte black, Badges deleted, Windows Tinted, AAC DRL P13W lights, AAC tinted LED reverse lights, AAC LED interior lights, RPI match painted DRL Bezels, Lis plate frame, Lloyds mats

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07-02-2012, 05:39 PM	#9
A.R. Headers Drives: Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: new york Posts: 263	CDawg705, Not sure if this matters to you but GM themselves chose us for all the COPO Camaro's that'll be terrorizing dragstrips nationwide this summer. Ford uses ARH on all the Cobra Jets and Dodge used us exclusively on all the V10 Drag Pack Challengers. ARH is also the spec headers for the 50 Dodge Viper ACR-X's built to run the Viper Cup. Google all these great cars for more insight. If you have questions please feel free to ask. Thanks Nick __________________ www.AmericanRacingHeaders.com 100% USA MADE

07-02-2012, 04:45 PM	#4
NDC123 The Machinist Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 IBM silver rally Join Date: May 2012 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 402	ARH here

07-02-2012, 04:54 PM	#5
mikeSS Drives: 2015 c7 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,462	for me its what my shop has in stock. would have went either. but there had kooks in stock.

07-02-2012, 05:09 PM	#7
TRock Drives: 2011 CGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Memphis, TN. Posts: 80	You will not be disappointed in the ARH. ang if you get them from Phastek you can use the code for camaro5 discount of 5%, which will take about a hundred dollars off the cost.

07-02-2012, 05:18 PM	#8
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,179	The good news is that you can't go wrong with any of the big names; ARH, Stainless Works, and Kooks are all going to be pretty close to identical in terms of performance and quality. If you have any questions do not hesitate to hit me up.

07-02-2012, 06:22 PM	#11
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Kooks here! 2" on the T/A And 1 7/8's on the SS Cant go wrong with kooks just my .2 __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

07-02-2012, 07:05 PM	#12
uniqueskillz Drives: ETMC built 700+hp Twin Turbo LS3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 682	I had arh on mines and loved it. Sounded soooo such better. I had cats with x pipe. Took them off to install twin turbos and added some shorties. Either one you choose you'll be happy. The're both top notch and you can't go wrong. Last edited by uniqueskillz; 07-02-2012 at 07:08 PM. Reason: added words or wisdome.

07-02-2012, 07:47 PM	#13
cdawg705 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS M6 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 182	I'll be doing the short system, or will the FlowMaster AMT X-pipe make a difference in sound and performance? __________________ 2010 1SS, TR6060, TSP Forged LS3 418 Stroker Tuned by Blue Thunder Racing. (stock heads, intake, TB and rockers), Brian Tooley platinum springs, Mantic 9000, Barton shifter , BMR 1" drop, Siebon TS2 Last edited by cdawg705; 07-02-2012 at 08:15 PM.

07-02-2012, 07:55 PM	#14
101fng Drives: 2009 Mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 97	kooks and ARH are both quality headers. if i were to have to make the same decision (assuming the primary and collector sizes were the same), it would come down to price.