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Old 07-03-2012, 10:28 AM   #1
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Exclamation June 2012 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger)

Jun 2012 Delivery (sales) Stats:

Camaro Jun 2012 Deliveries (actual sales): 9,123 +8 (Pr Ye)

Jun 2012 Production Stats:

Camaro Produced in Jun 2012: 2,069

Compared to Competition:

Mustang sold 10,263 units in Jun 2012 +16 (Pr Ye)
Challenger sold 4,009 units in Jun 2012 +18 (Pr Ye)







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Old 07-03-2012, 11:49 AM   #2
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ouch, got spanked last month. must have been on another buy one get one free sale.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:51 AM   #3
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ouch, got spanked last month. must have been on another buy one get one free sale.

ooo a "buy an ss and get a v6 for 15 grand sale"

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Old 07-03-2012, 11:58 AM   #4
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I wonder why production was so low last month? Gearing up the the 2013 model year to start production?
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:29 PM   #5
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Slow decline due to continued carryover of LS3/L99? The General needs to freshen it up a bit if they want trade-up sales!
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:47 PM   #6
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Still sold 500+ more Camaros this June vs. last June (2011). Sales are growing.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:11 PM   #7
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Still sold more Camaros in the last year, and the last three years, than Mustang. Still winning.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:30 PM   #8
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And I still don't see that many new Mustangs on the road, see as many Chalangers. People must be trying to hide them due to looks
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:30 PM   #9
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It has everything to do with incentives. There are a lot of great deals out there right now for the GT's... it's a good time to buy one.

2012 Mustang GT $3,000
2013 Mustang $1,000

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Old 07-03-2012, 03:32 PM   #10
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Ford has stepped up

Actually, Ford has really stepped up their product. HID and sequential LED turn signals are standard on all trims, HID are optional on Camaro, and no option for read LED's. Recaro racing seats are available on Ford, where GM doesn't even offer them. Mostly Ford has learned to make most of the really desirable options available across all trims, whereas they used to reserve the best options for the premium trim levels. The fact that you couldn't get bluetooth or USB on a Mustang GT was insane.

The aggressive use of factory to dealer incentives also don't hurt.

Either way, these two cars are priced in the same range so if Ford is giving more bang for the buck it's going to be a tough sell for Chevy. Unless they step up w/ something other than My Link, frameless RVM and Navigation I doubt they'll be outselling their chief rival the rest of this year or for 2013.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:33 PM   #11
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Ford has indeed stepped it up, I think they are making sure they take back the sales lead with incentives. They can't be making nearly as much profit per unit as the Camaro, can it?
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I wonder why production was so low last month? Gearing up the the 2013 model year to start production?

most likely. I was looking at inventory at some dealers in my area they didn't have much. heck, the closest one only had 2 in stock. and both high end, high $$$ 2SS models.
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Ford has indeed stepped it up, I think they are making sure they take back the sales lead with incentives. They can't be making nearly as much profit per unit as the Camaro, can it?
They don't care about who is leading sales.

They use the incentives to keep factory production at a certain level.

It's a bad habit. Customers will start to expect discounts.
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They don't care about who is leading sales.

They use the incentives to keep factory production at a certain level.

It's a bad habit. Customers will start to expect discounts.


I know when I bought my trucks I didn't even look if there wasn't at least 4500 cash back.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:09 AM   #15
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Interesting to see the Challenger has been on a very slow, progressive sales increase since 2009. In comparison, the Mustang/Camaro have been on a seasonal roller coaster. Makes you wonder if Dodge has the best sales strategy...
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Actually, Ford has really stepped up their product. HID and sequential LED turn signals are standard on all trims, HID are optional on Camaro, and no option for read LED's. Recaro racing seats are available on Ford, where GM doesn't even offer them. Mostly Ford has learned to make most of the really desirable options available across all trims, whereas they used to reserve the best options for the premium trim levels. The fact that you couldn't get bluetooth or USB on a Mustang GT was insane.

The aggressive use of factory to dealer incentives also don't hurt.

Either way, these two cars are priced in the same range so if Ford is giving more bang for the buck it's going to be a tough sell for Chevy. Unless they step up w/ something other than My Link, frameless RVM and Navigation I doubt they'll be outselling their chief rival the rest of this year or for 2013.

You may also want to look at the percentage of their units put in fleet (primarily daily rental) - I recall a number this past year at roughly 35!
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:33 AM   #17
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Also Ford has more advertising going on I cant remember the last time I saw a Gen5 camaro Ad. on tv. The only Camaro I saw was a 69 in an ad for viagra it looked nice I bet it pissed off mustang lovers. Yet with little or no advertising Gen5 camaros are out selling mustang. Chevy runs deep.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:04 AM   #18
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It has everything to do with incentives. There are a lot of great deals out there right now for the GT's... it's a good time to buy one.

2012 Mustang GT $3,000
2013 Mustang $1,000

2012 Camaro $0
I've bought 4 new cars in the last 2 years
2010 Challenger SRT8 $8,000 off MSRP
2010 Mustang GT - $9,600 off MSRP
2012 Escape Limited - $7,800 off MSRP
2012 Camaro SS/RS - $1,000 off MSRP

Almost bought a 2013 Mustang GT for $3,000 off MSRP & could of had a 2012 Mustang GT for $7,000 off MSRP but after driving the 13 GT the 12 GT wasn't even an option.

Even with $3,000 off MSRP on the 2013 Mustang GT I paid almost $2,000 less for my Camaro 2SS/RS.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:56 AM   #19
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I've bought 4 new cars in the last 2 years
2010 Challenger SRT8 $8,000 off MSRP
2010 Mustang GT - $9,600 off MSRP
2012 Escape Limited - $7,800 off MSRP
2012 Camaro SS/RS - $1,000 off MSRP

Almost bought a 2013 Mustang GT for $3,000 off MSRP & could of had a 2012 Mustang GT for $7,000 off MSRP but after driving the 13 GT the 12 GT wasn't even an option.

Even with $3,000 off MSRP on the 2013 Mustang GT I paid almost $2,000 less for my Camaro 2SS/RS.
That's strange... the Camaro is even more expensive from an MSRP perspective. You must have had every single option available on the Mustang (CS Special?).

2012 2SS starts at $35,880 (-1k = 34,880)
2012 GT Premium starts at $34,300 (-3k = 31,300)
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so there's a buttload of stangs and camaros......GR8!:bangdesk:
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so there's a buttload of stangs and camaros......GR8!:bangdesk:
Duh! I laugh at all the people who continue to believe that they drive a "rare" car because they bought a Camaro.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:31 AM   #22
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Duh! I laugh at all the people who continue to believe that they drive a "rare" car because they bought a Camaro.
<gasp> You mean .. Precious isn't "rare" ..

OMG it's a CATASTROPHE!! giggle .. sorry .. I just couldn't resist!!
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You may also want to look at the percentage of their units put in fleet (primarily daily rental) - I recall a number this past year at roughly 35!
I don't doubt that info at all, having said that what I posted was correct. I'm certainly no Ford fan, all the features in the world don't make it as attractive or more fun to drive than the Camaro. The public chooses the Camaro, which is why Ford had to fleet dump.

Now, if the next gen 'stang has an IRS as rumored, produces similar power while weighing 500 lbs less and priced in the same range and still has more content.... well, as I stated Chevy is going to have a tough sell to the general public who aren't F-body enthusiasts.... and that's all I'm saying.
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The Ford 5.0 is a good Motor and is starting to shine. The Chevy 6.2 is good also but rumors are flying that Chevy is looking to downsize the base motor with a reworked 5.3 and tagging it a 327. The 5.3 is lighter can be made easily into a powerhouse, easily supercharge and turbo charged and is a proven maintenance free performer. The 5.3 was used in a variety of car from the 90s up to 2005 but was nowhere near setup to its capabilities. The SS Monte Carlo used this until the car was discontinued. I suspect the Gen 6 camaro which is to be smaller and lighter will use this as the base V8. These 5.3 motors are already being sold as crate motors for racing
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Duh! I laugh at all the people who continue to believe that they drive a "rare" car because they bought a Camaro.
Yep..just cars...but at the top of the coolness meter compared to most other cars.
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