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LimaCharlie · 07-04-2012, 10:52 PM

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Here is another review of the '13 GT500 and ZL1, by Chris Harris. Very honest review:

DanSS24 · 07-04-2012, 11:40 PM

The guy was hilarious but interesting review. Numbers are different though. 671hp for the GT500 and 588hp for the ZL1.

b_williams_82 · 07-04-2012, 11:55 PM

Yea don't know where he got his numbers, but great review otherwise! Unbiased, and it's still going to come down 90% of the time... Are you Team Chevy

, or team ford

??

04ssSilverado · 07-05-2012, 12:10 AM

All I can say,from this and personal experience, is, I prefer a lady in public & a pro in private.lol. Thank God for all the competitors. It makes it better for us all.allowed

CyberPredator · 07-05-2012, 12:12 AM

Metric calculation is slightly off of ours. If you look at the zr1 on certain euro tracks it says 647. Or lambo lp700 is only 691 by our calculations.

PeeBee · 07-05-2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DanSS24

The guy was hilarious but interesting review. Numbers are different though. 671hp for the GT500 and 588hp for the ZL1.

Chris Harris is always hilarious... Guess that's where he earned his nickname "Monkey"...

jonathanmoguel · 07-05-2012, 02:33 AM

looks like a monkey! just kidding!

Bob Cosby · 07-05-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberPredator

Metric calculation is slightly off of ours. If you look at the zr1 on certain euro tracks it says 647. Or lambo lp700 is only 691 by our calculations.

Exactly. He is using DIN HP, which has a different definition than SAE HP. The conversion is 1 SAE HP = 1.0142 DIN HP.

the rich dude · 07-05-2012, 07:38 AM

good review

Blue Menace · 07-05-2012, 07:54 AM

I just couldn't help grinning throughout the review. Such awesome cars!

VTXFrank · 07-05-2012, 08:01 AM

That guys enthusiasm while he was driving the GT500 is contagious! Makes me want to go drive my car even though it isn't a GT500!

I think this is the best review I've seen of these two cars pitted against each other.

MEDISIN · 07-05-2012, 08:06 AM

"[The GT-500] is an engine looking for a chassis".

cjon9657 · 07-05-2012, 08:42 AM

Its the way God intended it to be. Big front v8s, rear wheel drive, lots of power.

2012ZL1 · 07-05-2012, 09:12 AM

Much as I hate all the VS. stuff on the forum right now and useless bickering and bench racing, I thoroughly enjoyed this guy's interpretation of the cars.
The nice thing about him is he is unbiased based on brand and you can tell from his narrative.
The other thing I like is he has obviously driven some cars in his time, and is very honest about his feelings of the vehicle. He also obviously knows his way round a track.
Very good video, best I've seen on these cars. I like this guy, but he really needs to tone back his exuberance for BMW's...lol, every comparison he mentions is BMW..

*radz28* · 07-05-2012, 09:21 AM

Enjoyable review. Not really surprising from what we've mostly already seen or read. Did he say ZL1 was two seconds faster?

Modern07 · 07-05-2012, 09:41 AM

Good review - but the ZL1 sure don't cost $48k!

hognutz · 07-05-2012, 10:05 AM

I liked the review. The guy was obviously not really up on the cars but that is the part I liked the most there was no axe to grind. Just drove the cars and gave his take.

People get too caught up in numbers on paper. The ford guy's finally got a reviewer to pic there car as a winner so the can quit crying like a bunch of 10 yr old girls with a skinned knee's.

sammyv · 07-05-2012, 10:14 AM

A few facts were a bit off but a good review! Thanks for posting! And I must say the positive review for ZL1 takes a bit of sting out of the wait!

2010SLVRBULIT · 07-05-2012, 10:34 AM

interesting...but aren't the seats on the GT500 adjustable on the lower lumbar(saying it's too far forward, looking down)? It wasn't that bad when I sat in one the other day

Bob Cosby · 07-05-2012, 10:40 AM

The Recaros also move vertically - so he could have adjusted the seat down. Probably just didn't realize it.

DanSS24 · 07-05-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PeeBee

Chris Harris is always hilarious... Guess that's where he earned his nickname "Monkey"...

I did not know that.

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Originally Posted by jonathanmoguel

looks like a monkey! just kidding!

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Originally Posted by Blue Menace

I just couldn't help grinning throughout the review. Such awesome cars!

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Originally Posted by MEDISIN

"[The GT-500] is an engine looking for a chassis".

Interesting way of putting it, but I see the concept.

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Originally Posted by radz28

Enjoyable review. Not really surprising from what we've mostly already seen or read. Did he say ZL1 was two seconds faster?

yes he did. but what did he mean about the brake a little bit "blunt"? His expression looks like he was not liking it.

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Originally Posted by Modern07

Good review - but the ZL1 sure don't cost $48k!

I wish. Maybe euros?

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Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

interesting...but aren't the seats on the GT500 adjustable on the lower lumbar(saying it's too far forward, looking down)? It wasn't that bad when I sat in one the other day

I've noticed other drivers said that they sit high and the one on MT said it's like a monkey on a stick.

Loading..... · 07-05-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Modern07

Good review - but the ZL1 sure don't cost $48k!

It's US currency converted to British Pound - which is still off.

USD $54,095 = Pound £34,757

DanSS24 · 07-05-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Loading.....

It's US currency converted to British Pound - which is still off.

USD $54,095 = Pound £34,757

£48000 = 83,000 USD

too much if the ZL1 cost that much.

Loading..... · 07-05-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DanSS24

£48000 = 83,000 USD

too much if the ZL1 cost that much.

Don't forget about the duty and taxes you have to include to get the car imported over there. May be just a ballpark guess with duty and taxes in mind.

DanSS24 · 07-05-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Loading.....

Don't forget about the duty and taxes you have to include to get the car imported over there. May be just a ballpark guess with duty and taxes in mind.

07-04-2012, 11:40 PM	#2
DanSS24 Drives: myself crazy Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 808 Posts: 740	The guy was hilarious but interesting review. Numbers are different though. 671hp for the GT500 and 588hp for the ZL1. __________________ I'd rather chase speeders and bad guys with a 1LE than my R/T Charger

07-04-2012, 11:55 PM	#3
b_williams_82 Drives: 2013 ZL1 #142 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Roswell, NM Posts: 741	Yea don't know where he got his numbers, but great review otherwise! Unbiased, and it's still going to come down 90% of the time... Are you Team Chevy , or team ford ?? __________________ Order # QHQWJF Current Status: 4200 VIN 142 1100, (04/25/12): 2000, (05/21/12): 2500, (5/22/12): 3000, (5/22/12): 3100, (5/31/12): 3300, (5/31/12): 3400, (6/7/2012): 3800, (6/15/2012): 4000, (6/15/2012): 4104, (6/15/2012): 4106, (6/19/2012): 4150, (6/19/2012), 4200, (7/16/2012), 4300, (7/18/2012), 4B00, (6/15/2012) , 5000, (7/25/2012) 6000, Delivered to the customer (8/2/2012)

07-05-2012, 12:12 AM	#5
CyberPredator Drives: TT/SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 520	Metric calculation is slightly off of ours. If you look at the zr1 on certain euro tracks it says 647. Or lambo lp700 is only 691 by our calculations. __________________

07-05-2012, 08:01 AM	#11
VTXFrank Drives: 2011 Mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL Posts: 20	That guys enthusiasm while he was driving the GT500 is contagious! Makes me want to go drive my car even though it isn't a GT500! I think this is the best review I've seen of these two cars pitted against each other. __________________

07-05-2012, 08:06 AM	#12
MEDISIN Drives: 2011 CTS-V Sedan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 822 View My Garage	"[The GT-500] is an engine looking for a chassis". __________________ 2012 - Present: 2011 CTS-V Sedan, A6, Black Raven 2009 - 2012: 2010 2SS RS IBM M6 Photos, MGW Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms/Tunnel Brace, Roto-Fab CAI, VMAX Ported TB, Kooks 6511-Complete (Headers, X-Pipe, Mufflers), dyno tuned by R.P.M. = 415 hp/412 lb-ft.

07-05-2012, 12:10 AM	#4
04ssSilverado Drives: above `12 zl1 #780 Join Date: May 2009 Location: holly-springs,nc Posts: 195	All I can say,from this and personal experience, is, I prefer a lady in public & a pro in private.lol. Thank God for all the competitors. It makes it better for us all.allowed

07-05-2012, 02:33 AM	#7
jonathanmoguel MM.CC Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wilmington/Lomita, CA Posts: 163 View My Garage	looks like a monkey! just kidding!

07-05-2012, 07:38 AM	#9
the rich dude Drives: Getting 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 971	good review

07-05-2012, 07:54 AM	#10
Blue Menace Drives: 2013 WRX Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 706	I just couldn't help grinning throughout the review. Such awesome cars!

07-05-2012, 08:42 AM	#13
cjon9657 Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 424 View My Garage	Its the way God intended it to be. Big front v8s, rear wheel drive, lots of power. __________________

07-05-2012, 09:12 AM	#14
2012ZL1 CaRaHoLiC Drives: '12 ZL1,67 Cam,68 Biscayne 427 4 sp Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,682	Much as I hate all the VS. stuff on the forum right now and useless bickering and bench racing, I thoroughly enjoyed this guy's interpretation of the cars. The nice thing about him is he is unbiased based on brand and you can tell from his narrative. The other thing I like is he has obviously driven some cars in his time, and is very honest about his feelings of the vehicle. He also obviously knows his way round a track. Very good video, best I've seen on these cars. I like this guy, but he really needs to tone back his exuberance for BMW's...lol, every comparison he mentions is BMW.. __________________ 2012 ZL1 2.55 upper, 10" lower pullies, Innovators west billet hub and sfi balancer, solid blower drive isolator, 50 mm idler kit, full length S/S headers no cats, comp cams stage 3 cam, comp roller rocker trunion kit, comp push rods,dual valve springs retainers and locks, Injector dynamics ID850 inectors, Rotofab ZL1 cold air kit, Lingenfelter 160 thermostat, Rotofab intercooler reservoir, stock plugs, LS7 90mm throttle body, GTO clutch reservoir mod, Tuning by Jannetty, install by me.

07-05-2012, 09:21 AM	#15
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crapramento, Crapifornia Posts: 12,949 View My Garage	Enjoyable review. Not really surprising from what we've mostly already seen or read. Did he say ZL1 was two seconds faster? __________________ "...What IS true: We anticipated that this would happen - we are never finished - and yes, Ford DOES deserve to win now and then. To think that GM can come out with a car to make ford throw in the towel is simply foolhardy..." - fbodfather

07-05-2012, 09:41 AM	#16
Modern07 Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2013 ZL1 #2303 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Heathrow, FL Posts: 1,643	Good review - but the ZL1 sure don't cost $48k! __________________ My Build Thread

07-05-2012, 10:05 AM	#17
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 1,903	I liked the review. The guy was obviously not really up on the cars but that is the part I liked the most there was no axe to grind. Just drove the cars and gave his take. People get too caught up in numbers on paper. The ford guy's finally got a reviewer to pic there car as a winner so the can quit crying like a bunch of 10 yr old girls with a skinned knee's. __________________ 2013 ZL1 2013 Dart 2004.5 Ram cummins

07-05-2012, 10:14 AM	#18
sammyv Drives: 2013 red Lingenfelter ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: zionsville IN Posts: 556	A few facts were a bit off but a good review! Thanks for posting! And I must say the positive review for ZL1 takes a bit of sting out of the wait!

07-05-2012, 10:34 AM	#19
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: 2010SIM/RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 5,922 View My Garage	interesting...but aren't the seats on the GT500 adjustable on the lower lumbar(saying it's too far forward, looking down)? It wasn't that bad when I sat in one the other day

07-05-2012, 10:40 AM	#20
Bob Cosby Drives: 2010 Vette Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 572	The Recaros also move vertically - so he could have adjusted the seat down. Probably just didn't realize it.