dont trust your back up sensors

[JCunningham]

They dont work when your going to hit something. They work after you back over a black mail box and scratch up your rear end. The fu*King things will tell me there is something across the paking lot but not right behind me. 3am back up cameras good for nothing. mirrors are good for nothing. well we will see how much damage in the morning.

[AdamZ]

Apparently you're eyes are good for nothing also Know your surroundings

[JCunningham]

ya i know. couldnt see a thing in the back up camera. even when i hit it. censors never beeped or anything untill after I hit it. I was backing out of a drive way. I thought i was in the road so I turned

[rberns]

maybe our cars should come with night vision equiped to the back up cameras

[msp2887]

Maybe sober up next time before driving. You thought you were already in the street? Yikes

[ROBOSSRS]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

I'm not going to give you an uppity response like the rest. The visibility in these cars absolutely sucks! And tinting the rear window from the factory was brilliant for night time driving.

Sounds like you won't have your car very long. I honestly have never had a visibility problem.

[rtcat600man]

Back up sensors work just fine, not sure they are going to pick up a mail box if it is right between sensors. I have no issues with mine. Guess you should know your surroundings a little better next time?

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

I'm not going to give you an uppity response like the rest. The visibility in these cars absolutely sucks! And tinting the rear window from the factory was brilliant for night time driving.

Nothing wrong with the visibility Adjust your mirrors properly

[fish907]

dont trust your back up censors

Yeah man, I totally hate it when a controlling body seeking to control my free speech fails, and I have rely on backup oppressors.

[ToolFan66]

Sounds like somebody has been drinking?

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by fish907

Yeah man, I totally hate it when a controlling body seeking to control my free speech fails, and I have rely on backup oppressors.

I hope a mod edits your post, for the full ironic effect

[45THanniversarySS]

for the comment about tinting your window for night driving...really? really guy? new your gonna tell me how the mounted flame thrower was a bad choice for making BBQ on saturday evenings...or that my 50. CAL machine gun i mounted on the hood was a bad idea for hunting...oh hell with it ill just take the 4X4 out and take the 34" swamper off too...ppl these days lol

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

It's my wifes car. I guess all the reviews of bad visibility are some kind of myth. I get you guys love your Camaros to death but lets get real. They are no greenhouse when it comes to seeing out of them.

Yes, please let's get real. You're just used to cars that require no real effort from the driver to attain good visibility.

The reviews you talk about are of two types:

1) from owners
2) from pro reviewers

In group 1), let's be real, we have a group of people that in general are fairly ignorant of how to even drive. Let's be very honest here, the average new car owner is no ace behind the wheel, even when you go to the realm of 'cool cars' like the Camaro. Actually in general I'd say that the typical new 'cool car' owner today has fairly little clue as to what the car is telling them when it does what it does. Electronic systems have removed a 'need' for the average driver to interact with cars. It's a clinical relationship, where new car owners are expecting the car to do everything for them. Read the threads here if you need proof. And for the past 30 years, everything in new car design has become 'ergonomics' everything is for 'convenience' in new cars. The Camaro is not the "best car' for visibility unless we're talking the convertible, with the roof down. The 'bad visibility' is a myth. It is a myth because while the C-pillars are wide and the rear end is slightly raked up, you have rear-view mirrors firstly, and secondly the issue of visibility is subjective and is being compared and contrasted to other cars that the owners are used to driving. This is the same type of owner that can't believe how "much power" the SS model has. You want real bad visibility? Drive a '69 Corvette hardtop. Drive my old Solstice GXP with the roof up.

But adjust your mirrors correctly, and these problems all but go away.

Group 2) is paid to find things to write about. Hyperbole and exaggeration are meat and potatoes for this group, and sensationalism is their gravy. They are not supposed to write that everything is great, they need down-sides so that they can end up providing "info" for comparisons later. They would never writet that "visibility is acceptable if the driver adjusts mirrors like he's supposed to". First, they don't know f-all about how to drive themselves in most cases. Secondly, that type of talk doesn't 'sell' a review to a publisher or editor. Thirdly, the standpoint is that in new cars, the driver shouldn't have to know how to do that, the car is supposed to do that work for the driver.

If the visibility was "so bad", everyone would be hitting everything, as if they had on blindfolds. A good artist never blames his canvas or brush.

It's my opinion that things like back up sensors, at the end of the equation, make for worse drivers overall. The drivers begin to depend on those systems, and then they run over a mailbox. Same goes for a lot of doo-dads. It removes the need for the driver to think way too much. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Anyway. Want better viability? Great mod, zero dollars: adjust your mirrors the right way.

[Mvp_Me]

honestly lets be real i usually back into a parking spot if i can because when i cant and i have to back out i cant see sh*t on my left or right. i literally chance it and back out slowly (mind you im maneuvering around to make sure some ass doesnt come flying by) but regardless those pillers in the back suck when backing out. as for me im used to it and it doesnt bother me, you live with it but the truth is the truth and looking out the rear in the 5th gen sucks but she looks so damn sexy from the outside.