R&T: The Camaro Z/28 versus the world (Viper TA vs GT-R vs V12 Vantage S) - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

IOMZL1 · 10-23-2014, 10:20 PM

Full article:

http://kinja.roadandtrack.com/battle...rld-1649916811

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The verdict is in, and everyone from our least experienced staff member to a two-time Grand-Am champion agrees. In this company, the Z/28 feels perfectly at home. It might be too expensive for what you get, although one suspects that Chevrolet will sell every one it can build. And the car might even be flattered by what is surely the finest tire package ever fitted to a mass-market production car. But it has the heart, the mojo, and the all-around ability to shine in virtually any gathering. Among these cars, on this track, it's worthy of another Fowles quote: "A gentleman in a gentleman's house."

This misfit is not what the Camaro has always been. Whatever the Chevy once was, however, it's now one thing: outstanding.

MrUnsubtleNinja · 10-24-2014, 05:00 PM

I laughed at the chart calling the Camaro a Compact and the GT-R a subcompact....

jose1003 · 10-24-2014, 05:02 PM

awesome article

PYROLYSIS · 10-24-2014, 05:44 PM

That's the first complaint I've heard about heat soak on the LS7.

Bad@ssCamaro · 10-24-2014, 07:34 PM

Should the term "heat soak" be used if the car isn't pulling timing? Will a car pull timing if oil temps are too high?

backtotintops · 10-24-2014, 07:41 PM

I think this article has been covered here before and we determined they did not do anything to prep the car for track use...ie...50 weight oil and simply removing the rain tray on the hood vent.

45thAnniversary2SS · 10-24-2014, 08:30 PM

"This Camaro is simply too good for a fan base that misspells the model's name half the time," Krewson notes.... OUCH lol.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 10-24-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 45thAnniversary2SS

"This Camaro is simply too good for a fan base that misspells the model's name half the time," Krewson notes.... OUCH lol.

My hometown salesman misspelled it and she had one sitting right outside her office.

45thAnniversary2SS · 10-24-2014, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

My hometown salesman misspelled it and she had one sitting right outside her office.

Oh I believe it. People here get it wrong and it's in the url.

doc7000 · 10-25-2014, 09:02 PM

Camero right?

AZCamaroFan · 10-25-2014, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 45thAnniversary2SS

"This Camaro is simply too good for a fan base that misspells the model's name half the time," Krewson notes.... OUCH lol.

i read that. these magazine's come up with new insults all the time huh.

we need to spread some insults about auto journalists that

bmw or something.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-26-2014, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

i read that. these magazine's come up with new insults all the time huh.

we need to spread some insults about auto journalists that

bmw or something.

Considering how many times I've seen it spelled "Camero" here, it's a well-earned insult.

doc7000 · 10-26-2014, 02:56 AM

No offense, however with some Camaro fan I completely understand the sentiment.... Not the point about spelling Camaro right. However the Z/28 Camaro is the kind of car that I find traditionally Camaro fans are not interested in. I talk to so many who say the only thing that matters is either 0-60 or 1/4mile times and everything else with the Camaro is a waste.

Though it seems as though at GM they have a really strong stretch of making performance cars that excel in many areas. I really can't wait to see the 6th generation Camaro, I want to see what kind of package they have come up with.

thagSS · 10-26-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrUnsubtleNinja

I laughed at the chart calling the Camaro a Compact and the GT-R a subcompact....

+1 I did the same thing

10-24-2014, 05:02 PM	#3
jose1003 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Cyber Gray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 1,132	awesome article __________________

10-24-2014, 05:44 PM	#4
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	That's the first complaint I've heard about heat soak on the LS7. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

10-24-2014, 07:34 PM	#5
Bad@ssCamaro BeckyD Rocks :-) Drives: 2015 1SS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 5,781 View My Garage	Should the term "heat soak" be used if the car isn't pulling timing? Will a car pull timing if oil temps are too high? __________________ 2015 CRT 1SS/1LE RS/Recaro's/NPP/Nav/Rear vision pkg./BA speaker upgrade. Stage 3 BMR cam, ARH 1 7/8 headers, CAI, BMR 1.25 drop springs, JPSS Billet Bushings, Peddars Cradle Bushings...460 whp...so far....SOLD, but not forgotten!

10-24-2014, 07:41 PM	#6
backtotintops Drives: 14 Z/28 0# Join Date: May 2013 Location: NY Posts: 773	I think this article has been covered here before and we determined they did not do anything to prep the car for track use...ie...50 weight oil and simply removing the rain tray on the hood vent. __________________ "PTM11" Search & Destroy

10-24-2014, 08:30 PM	#7
45thAnniversary2SS Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary 2SS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,812 View My Garage	"This Camaro is simply too good for a fan base that misspells the model's name half the time," Krewson notes.... OUCH lol. __________________

10-24-2014, 05:00 PM	#2
MrUnsubtleNinja Drives: N/A Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NORTH AMERICA Posts: 42	I laughed at the chart calling the Camaro a Compact and the GT-R a subcompact....

10-25-2014, 09:02 PM	#10
doc7000 Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lomita,CA Posts: 806	Camero right?

10-26-2014, 02:56 AM	#13
doc7000 Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lomita,CA Posts: 806	No offense, however with some Camaro fan I completely understand the sentiment.... Not the point about spelling Camaro right. However the Z/28 Camaro is the kind of car that I find traditionally Camaro fans are not interested in. I talk to so many who say the only thing that matters is either 0-60 or 1/4mile times and everything else with the Camaro is a waste. Though it seems as though at GM they have a really strong stretch of making performance cars that excel in many areas. I really can't wait to see the 6th generation Camaro, I want to see what kind of package they have come up with.