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SantosNL · 01-13-2016, 03:47 PM

I need help choosing on what set up to run, I had a custom rear mount kit with a night fury cam and on e85 I was making about 720 rwhp and tq spooling was terrible but I was able to get 11.3 @127 I want a new set up that would allow be to be able to run 9's and if I could still run my night fury cam I would also need suspension work and welds as well. The car is getting a built 6l80 and forged motor. I can't decide wether to go with UPP or hellion kit (turbo kits) or Procharger/Ecs the car is mainly a weekend warrior street racing, drag racing and roll racing what is better and more Effiecent.

Bo White · 01-13-2016, 03:49 PM

Turbo

SantosNL · 01-13-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

Turbo

What turbo kit tho?

Unreal · 01-13-2016, 04:29 PM

AGP kit.

Talk to Kevin about the Orange car he built. Came in with a F1R. Left with one of their basic twin kits. Went from low 11s/high 10s to bottom 9s on a soft pass getting the boot. If it had 1-2 more runs would have gone 8s. Complete street car/pump gas than went and cracked off a 9.2@156+ on 1st pass then got booted for no cage/chute/etc. A little more boost and 160mph would have been easy.

vortechc5@A2B Motorsport · 01-13-2016, 05:38 PM

I'm gonna have to say ECS. This is my car, it's a 15 1LE ( not a ZL1 like the vid says), and has run 10.4's@138.31, stock suspensions, stock clutch, stock motor with my N/A Jam Cam and nothing more than DR's.

Turbo's are great too-AGP has a great rep-I'm just biased of course.

bct10985 · 01-13-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

AGP kit.

Talk to Kevin about the Orange car he built. Came in with a F1R. Left with one of their basic twin kits. Went from low 11s/high 10s to bottom 9s on a soft pass getting the boot. If it had 1-2 more runs would have gone 8s. Complete street car/pump gas than went and cracked off a 9.2@156+ on 1st pass then got booted for no cage/chute/etc. A little more boost and 160mph would have been easy.

Everyone has a cell phone with a video camera on it these days.

Unreal · 01-13-2016, 07:02 PM

If you do an ECS setup, go right for a 2200R.

SantosNL · 01-13-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

AGP kit.

Talk to Kevin about the Orange car he built. Came in with a F1R. Left with one of their basic twin kits. Went from low 11s/high 10s to bottom 9s on a soft pass getting the boot. If it had 1-2 more runs would have gone 8s. Complete street car/pump gas than went and cracked off a 9.2@156+ on 1st pass then got booted for no cage/chute/etc. A little more boost and 160mph would have been easy.

What would the difference be between the agp kit and hellion (top mount) and UPP (top mount) kits be, I'm pretty terrified of having my turbos under the car which is why I got rid of my old kit. Btw how much hp was that orange Camaro making?

Unreal · 01-13-2016, 07:40 PM

~800rwhp through a stalled auto.

So many differences it is hard to even start.

Absolutely zero reason to have any issues with turbos mounted low. It is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better spot than up top, for reliability and power.

Taco Time · 01-14-2016, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SantosNL

What would the difference be between the agp kit and hellion (top mount) and UPP (top mount) kits be, I'm pretty terrified of having my turbos under the car which is why I got rid of my old kit. Btw how much hp was that orange Camaro making?

Mounting location is the biggie. You could PM AquaBlueSS. He frequents the drag strip, and has done cross country road trips in his AGP equipped SS. I've heard nothing but good things from him.

You can get the AGP cheaper than the Hellion, and it's gonna be a lot easier to install. Your underhood temps will be higher with the top-mount kit. You'd need to have everything on the hot side ceramic coated, and add tons of heat protection with the top-mount. Both kits are proven 4-digit rwhp capable.

HELLION TURBO · 01-14-2016, 07:10 AM

Hello.

Our standard system is rated from 500 rwhp to over 1200 rwhp, and we can upgrade to Gen 2 64 mm turbos and make over 1400 rwhp.

We have 4000 lb vehicles making around 1100 rwhp and go high 8's in the quarter mile.

Please let us know if we can answer any other questions.

Team Hellion

dreksnot · 01-14-2016, 08:32 AM

Night Fury will run great with TT. There's a thread here recently showing the results (dyno's).

Unreal · 01-14-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco Time

Mounting location is the biggie. You could PM AquaBlueSS. He frequents the drag strip, and has done cross country road trips in his AGP equipped SS. I've heard nothing but good things from him.

You can get the AGP cheaper than the Hellion, and it's gonna be a lot easier to install. Your underhood temps will be higher with the top-mount kit. You'd need to have everything on the hot side ceramic coated, and add tons of heat protection with the top-mount. Both kits are proven 4-digit rwhp capable.

When Hellion says standard system them are probably talking about their "standard" low mount system that they have had out for years before the show car crowd wanted a top mount system. There is a reason they did that system first. It will support more power. The top mount system is limited by downpipe size. The bottom mount systems (Hellion, AGP, Fabberge) will all support more power, spool quicker, and have less long term issues than a top mount system. They are also MUCH cheaper when you add it all up, and install cost is much much cheaper and easier. Also no issues with melting plugs, PS pumps, hoses, wires, etc like some other kits have.

I know 6 AGP cars all making between 1400-1600rwhp.

AGP comes with cast parts for reliability. All hot parts are ceramic coated. Comes complete bolt on, no modding, no extras needed. Catchcan, plugs, wires, filters, vacuum hoses, coating, etc.

AGP has choices in FMIC, from a smaller one for road racers to a FREAKING huge one. No cost difference, just options to get what works best.

Most options on turbos too. BW, Garret, Precision, Zetas, etc.

I still want to see a top mount system do a 1/2 mile or 1 mile pull without melting stuff. A dyno pull with the hood up is one thing, a 1-5th gear pull in a 1/2 or 1 mile course is where stuff gets interesting. Or a hot summer day where you have been driving for awhile then do a nice 3-4th gear pull.

AiL762 · 01-14-2016, 08:49 AM

subd, this could get interesting

01-13-2016, 03:47 PM	#1
SantosNL Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Detroit Mi Posts: 90 View My Garage	Twin turbo or Procharged/Ecs set up for 9 sec 1/4 I need help choosing on what set up to run, I had a custom rear mount kit with a night fury cam and on e85 I was making about 720 rwhp and tq spooling was terrible but I was able to get 11.3 @127 I want a new set up that would allow be to be able to run 9's and if I could still run my night fury cam I would also need suspension work and welds as well. The car is getting a built 6l80 and forged motor. I can't decide wether to go with UPP or hellion kit (turbo kits) or Procharger/Ecs the car is mainly a weekend warrior street racing, drag racing and roll racing what is better and more Effiecent.

01-13-2016, 04:29 PM	#4
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	AGP kit. Talk to Kevin about the Orange car he built. Came in with a F1R. Left with one of their basic twin kits. Went from low 11s/high 10s to bottom 9s on a soft pass getting the boot. If it had 1-2 more runs would have gone 8s. Complete street car/pump gas than went and cracked off a 9.2@156+ on 1st pass then got booted for no cage/chute/etc. A little more boost and 160mph would have been easy. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

01-13-2016, 07:02 PM	#7
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	If you do an ECS setup, go right for a 2200R. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

01-13-2016, 07:40 PM	#9
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	~800rwhp through a stalled auto. So many differences it is hard to even start. Absolutely zero reason to have any issues with turbos mounted low. It is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better spot than up top, for reliability and power. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

01-14-2016, 08:32 AM	#12
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 (stock) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,617 View My Garage	Night Fury will run great with TT. There's a thread here recently showing the results (dyno's). __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

01-13-2016, 03:49 PM	#2
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,021	Turbo

01-14-2016, 07:10 AM	#11
HELLION TURBO Drives: Twin Turbo SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 195	Hello. Our standard system is rated from 500 rwhp to over 1200 rwhp, and we can upgrade to Gen 2 64 mm turbos and make over 1400 rwhp. We have 4000 lb vehicles making around 1100 rwhp and go high 8's in the quarter mile. Please let us know if we can answer any other questions. Team Hellion

01-14-2016, 08:49 AM	#14
AiL762 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: MIA Posts: 60	subd, this could get interesting