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Old 11-07-2009, 09:34 PM   #1
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Changed the Diff and M6 trans fluid today...

Well, I went by the book for the entire break-in period. Oil changed at 60, 500, and now 1550 miles on the ODO. Along with the oil I also changed the fluids in the rear differential, and tremec 6060 transmission.

Based on all of the metal particles, I would strongly suggest that you change these fluids around 1500 miles.

I wanted to see both the big pieces and the little pieces so I strained the fluids with clean white T-shirts. The rear diff. has magnets on both the drain and fill plugs. Both of them had large blobs of metal shavings on them. I took a picture of a plug after it was cleaned for comparison. The diff fluid looked like a liquid metal due to all of the small particles. New, the fluid is perfectly clear. The T-shirt had quite a bit of large shavings too. Definately NOT something you want to keep running on IMHO.

The Tremec wasn't as bad. Very few large particles. The fluid, however looked like I had a tub of RJT paint.

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Old 11-07-2009, 11:17 PM   #2
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thats not good.. im do same thanxs
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:49 PM   #3
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I've done the oil as the manual states but not the differential yet...car has not been driven though more than a few miles since early August...once I get her back the differential will be done along with the tranny and oil again.

Thanks for the pics and post...just reminds me I need to get this done!
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:05 AM   #4
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OK, I've looked over the owners manual and for the life of me I can't find this info you guys are reffering to. Is this in the owners manual and if so what page? Or is this in the service manual?
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:50 AM   #5
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Weird, I have not seen anything like this coming out of my car??? engine was done @ 500 and 1500 non detergent, 3000 standard oil, trans and diff today @ 3500 both clean as a whistle, a little on the magnet but nothing like I see in the pics.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:20 AM   #6
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OK, I've looked over the owners manual and for the life of me I can't find this info you guys are reffering to. Is this in the owners manual and if so what page? Or is this in the service manual?
Look at page 8-16 and 8-17 for the break in information. I am not going to be racing my car but with as much power as the LS3 has, it's impossible not to peg out the @$$ dyno every now and again. Beyond that, I was a jet mechanic for 4 years (USAF) and an auto mechanic for 5. Changing out these fluids is a very good practice for someone who demands longivity and sustained tight tolorances out of their vehicle.


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Weird, I have not seen anything like this coming out of my car??? engine was done @ 500 and 1500 non detergent, 3000 standard oil, trans and diff today @ 3500 both clean as a whistle, a little on the magnet but nothing like I see in the pics.

Having these particles is nothing to be afraid of. They should be there on a new car. If you didn't see them then that just means you didn't look closely enough or that yours isn't finished breaking in yet. Remember, I used white T-shirts to intentionally show the particles. A new manufactured transmission and differential will always make these particles. It is a part of the natural break in process where the gears will lap together and remove the machined texture on the contact portions of the gear teeth.

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Old 11-09-2009, 01:57 PM   #7
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I'll be doing this next spring.

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Old 11-13-2009, 03:06 PM   #8
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I'll keep this in mind; I have about 3200 miles on my L99, and took it in for its first oil change today.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:03 PM   #9
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Just did my engine and trans at 1445 miles. Motor oil looked great! Also did the M6 tranny. No major surprises. I did strain the old fluid thru a paint strainer/filter(same as for a spray gun); no issues!. Filled w/8qts. Mobil 1 5W-30; trans w/Mobil ! Synthetic ATF, Dexronn III spec. I SWEAR after about 25-30 miles the tranny did free-up a little! Plan to do rear tomorrow; also w/Mobil Synthetic plus GM additive.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:35 AM   #10
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FYI: The fill & drain nuts are taken out with the end of a 3/8" ratchet! Torque: 24 lbs. Easy change to do, even with the Zoomer's exhaust!

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Old 11-20-2009, 12:26 PM   #11
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Why didn't you use GL-5 fluid. You wouldn't have needed the additive. The GL-5 exceedes 75-90/additive combo. The GM parts counter should of told you that. 75-90/additive is old news. Great for live axle 3-4 gen f-bods. You could use either one, but the GL-5 is newer technology.
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2010 Chevrolet Camaro | Camaro (VIN F) Service Manual | Driveline/Axle | Rear Drive Axle | Specifications | Document ID: 2214285
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Lubrication Specifications
Capacities Application
Quantity

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English

Synthetic Differential Lubricant GL-5 75W90 G/M P/N 89021677 (Canadian P/N 89021678)

Note: The following is for vehicles equipped with the Limited Slip Differential option. The Limited Slip Additive container capacity is greater than the amount needed. Only add the amount specified, 0.075 L (2.6 oz.).

Limited Slip Differential Lubricant Additive. Refer to Adhesives, Fluids, Lubricants, and Sealers.

For vehicles equipped the Limited Slip Differential
1.0 L
1.1 Qt

For vehicles not equipped with the Limited Slip Differential
0.9 L
1.0 Qt

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Old 11-20-2009, 12:29 PM   #13
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Just checked our parts dept. and the bottle says GL-5 on it.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:37 PM   #14
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I sent mine out for analysis. Came back clean as a whistle at 3000 miles. Sodium was detected. No metals.
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:41 PM   #15
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I sent mine out for analysis. Came back clean as a whistle at 3000 miles. Sodium was detected. No metals.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:34 PM   #16
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:06 PM   #17
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Why didn't you use GL-5 fluid. You wouldn't have needed the additive. The GL-5 exceedes 75-90/additive combo. The GM parts counter should of told you that. 75-90/additive is old news. Great for live axle 3-4 gen f-bods. You could use either one, but the GL-5 is newer technology.


I went with the spec in the manual.



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Old 11-27-2009, 12:50 PM   #18
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Did anyone else have issues filling the tranny with the new fluid? I thought I could force a bottle up there like I did with the differential, but it was a NO go :( I'm glad I had my mityvac brake fluid pump! I used it to suck out the new oil and pump it into the tranny. Worked like a charm!
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:29 PM   #19
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any tips on changing the diff. fluid? tranny? any snags to watch for?
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Both take a 3/8" ratchet to remove the 2 plugs - drain/fill. If you have the stock exhaust, pretty simple to change the diff fluid. Unless someone else didn't have the tranny issues, I found NO way to get the new fluid in! I had to use my brake fluid pump to get it in, which worked great! I suggest getting an oil pump with a flexible hose. Otherwise, it was very straightforward.

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Differential Torque: 24 lbs; not sure on the tranny.

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I am confused on how the manaul is telling me this. Do I mix 29.5 oz of Lube with 2.5 oz of friction modifier to equal exactly one quart? Or does the manual want me to fill the entire diff with one quart of lube and then add the 2.5 oz. I would hate to start this little project, and then to find out my new fluid is overfilling and dripping onto the floor. Thanks.
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You can't overfill it as it will just pour out the fill hole. Looks like 1.1 qts according to the above - with a limited slip diff. Anyway, just put the friction modifier in first, then fill the rest with the diff oil until it comes out the hole then clean up the excess and plug it...
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When I changed mine, the total capacity was 1 qt. I had a litte gear lube left over (about 2.5 oz.)

Put the 2.5 oz. frict. mod. in first then top off until it overflows. Put plug in, torque and smile.
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