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ColdfuzionTN · 12-27-2017, 07:27 PM

Hey all,

Got a Cipher Harness bar for Christmas. Got it installed and looks great. Having an issue though with the factory belts retracting properly. They are in front on the bar as per the instructions but are having a hard time retracting. Any tricks to get them to work properly?

Thanks

Zombie killer · 12-28-2017, 01:07 AM

Interested to see what the outcome is on your install. I wanted to install a cipher harness bar for autox events but retain the factory belt system the other times. Post up pics and let us know what you think of the setup when the bugs are worked out. I even looked at the BK version but after researching SCCA rules, i can't run this harness bar setup and remain in Street Class.

SquawkVFR · 12-28-2017, 04:13 AM

Wish I could help. I use this bar, but run harnesses full time. (Not a DD). I just find them more comfortable and secure than a stock seat belt.

ColdfuzionTN · 12-30-2017, 11:05 AM

Thanks I'll try and get some pics up to help trouble shoot. I'm waiting on tank plates to come it for my belts to be fully operational. Its definitely annoying having to fish the stock belt slack back down by hand when you get out.

SquawkVFR · 12-30-2017, 01:04 PM

How much play is in your bar once you have everything tightened down?

bmbbl be · 12-30-2017, 03:43 PM

I removed my rear seat belts because I made a rear seat delete set-up.

here are a few pics

STALKER · 12-31-2017, 07:28 AM

Sorry I can't help with the belt issue, but man your setup is AWESOME!!!! So clean! Those seats

Do you have anymore pics??

bmbbl be · 12-31-2017, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Sorry I can't help with the belt issue, but man your setup is AWESOME!!!! So clean! Those seats

Do you have anymore pics??

thanks !! they are from cipher 675 for both , planted brand seat mounts 300.

STALKER · 12-31-2017, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bmbbl be

thanks !! they are from cipher 675 for both , planted brand seat mounts 300.

Not a bad price at all. Whats your impression of them so far?

ColdfuzionTN · 12-31-2017, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SquawkVFR

How much play is in your bar once you have everything tightened down?

No real play in it its solid once cranked down and support rods tight. My install matches the install instructions picture but its like the belts are getting pushed to the front of the plastic where the retractors are and keeps it from retracting back in unless you use your fingers to guide it in better.

ColdfuzionTN · 12-31-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bmbbl be

I removed my rear seat belts because I made a rear seat delete set-up.

here are a few pics

Nice setup I should of gone with that bar setup. The Cipher bar one I have mounts to the top seat belt mounting bolts and has the two supports coming down to the lower seat belt bolt by the door. Also causes the bar to rub against back of stock seat when back a ways. Being 6'5" its back all the way normally.

bmbbl be · 12-31-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Not a bad price at all. Whats your impression of them so far?

they are very comfortable,,,

bmbbl be · 12-31-2017, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdfuzionTN

Nice setup I should of gone with that bar setup. The Cipher bar one I have mounts to the top seat belt mounting bolts and has the two supports coming down to the lower seat belt bolt by the door. Also causes the bar to rub against back of stock seat when back a ways. Being 6'5" its back all the way normally.

I am sure you could sell your cipher bar, the brey Krause harness bar is high end nice.

12-27-2017, 07:27 PM	#1
ColdfuzionTN Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 187	Cipher Harness bar question Hey all, Got a Cipher Harness bar for Christmas. Got it installed and looks great. Having an issue though with the factory belts retracting properly. They are in front on the bar as per the instructions but are having a hard time retracting. Any tricks to get them to work properly? Thanks

12-28-2017, 01:07 AM	#2
Zombie killer Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2013 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Pensacola Fla. ~Mike & Kym~ Posts: 656 View My Garage	Cipher bar Interested to see what the outcome is on your install. I wanted to install a cipher harness bar for autox events but retain the factory belt system the other times. Post up pics and let us know what you think of the setup when the bugs are worked out. I even looked at the BK version but after researching SCCA rules, i can't run this harness bar setup and remain in Street Class. __________________

12-30-2017, 03:43 PM	#6
bmbbl be Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ohio Posts: 1,360	I removed my rear seat belts because I made a rear seat delete set-up. here are a few pics Attached Images

12-31-2017, 07:28 AM	#7
STALKER Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Middletown, DE Posts: 340	Sorry I can't help with the belt issue, but man your setup is AWESOME!!!! So clean! Those seats Do you have anymore pics?? __________________ 2014 Camaro SS Spring Edition LSX440ci LSX Block, MAST 305 Black Labels, Exceldyne Valves, Diamond Pistons, Callies Crank & Rods, Cam Motion Cam, Johnson 2116LSR Lifters, Comp XDA Pushrods, Jesel Rockers, Mamo MSD, NW 102, Roto-Fab CAI, FAST 65# Injectors, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Kooks 2" Headers, Corsa Sport 3" Catback, Z28 Shifter, ZR1 Clutch, Katech LW Flywheel, 1LE 3.91 Diff, LPW Diff Cover, BMR - 1.4" Springs, LCA's, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Sway Bars, End Links, Diff Bushings, and Tunnel Brace, Z28/1LE Strut Tower Brace, Improved Racing Oil Cooler 2023 Camaro ZL1 / 1LE Stock

12-28-2017, 04:13 AM	#3
SquawkVFR Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,971	Wish I could help. I use this bar, but run harnesses full time. (Not a DD). I just find them more comfortable and secure than a stock seat belt.

12-30-2017, 11:05 AM	#4
ColdfuzionTN Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 187	Thanks I'll try and get some pics up to help trouble shoot. I'm waiting on tank plates to come it for my belts to be fully operational. Its definitely annoying having to fish the stock belt slack back down by hand when you get out.

12-30-2017, 01:04 PM	#5
SquawkVFR Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,971	How much play is in your bar once you have everything tightened down?