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Old 12-29-2009, 10:08 PM   #1
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My JBA shorty install...

So had MRT install my JBA shorties today! Install was straight forward. Josh, who did the install, said it was one of the easier header installs he had done.

So here is few pictures from the install...

1) With the head shield removed you can easily see the drivers side manifold.




2) The passenger side has a bit more things in the way.




3) Driver's side stock manifold




4) Passenger side manifold vs JBA header




5) Another view of the stock manifold




6) Outlet - stock manifold vs JBA header




7 & 8 ) Closer look at the outlets







9) Interesting stock gasket which is reused




10) Drivers side header in place




11) Passenger side installed




The stock down pipe does need to be cut and a new flange welded in place.

12) Stock down pipe




13) Josh cutting up my pipe! LOL




14) New flange welded in place.




15) Finally the drivers side header after a few good heat cycles




First impressions: The car did seem to get slighty louder on start up and revs. The exhaust tone seems a bit deeper and more full. The sound seemed to change (for the better) on the 90 minute drive home. Was surprised it seem to change so quickly. I am extremely happy with the improvement to my exhaust sound!

Performance... well, the roads were snow covered and icy... so really can't comment yet on the performance benefit. I plan on dyno'ing the car soon.

I did do a short video clip that I need to edit... but since the car's sound seemed to change so much on the way home I really need to get a new video!

So as it stands I give this mod a

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:25 PM   #2
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very cool...thank you for the detail and Im looking forward to the video to compare the sound vs stock.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:00 PM   #3
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awesome how much this run you? i cant wait to hear im gonna have the same setup! screaming you have
MRT Exhaust and JBA headers now right...
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:06 AM   #4
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awesome write up scrming you make it look so easy brotha...if it wasn't for the welding i'd do it myself...freakn local shop quoted my ass $320 install
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:55 AM   #5
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Nice post and info .
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:35 AM   #6
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Thanks all!

@bluedevil02... yeah, with all the right tools and a hoist it does look easy! Like the $60 3 foot extension! LOL! Ok, maybe it wasn't 3 feet... but it was pretty dang big! LOL! As mrray pointed out... it is alike a 4.5 hour install..
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:40 AM   #8
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Ok... not the best of videos... I will try to get some better start ups and revs.. May be tougher getting a good WOT take off.. roads are snow covered here and it's friggin' COLD! LOL!

Listen closely with your headphones and you can here some subtle difference... the differences are much more pronounced in person... and as I mentioned the 90 minute drive seems to really improved the sound...

So here it is:

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Old 12-30-2009, 09:49 AM   #10
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that sounds real good!
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It sounds so much better in person, lol. They definitely add to the exhaust note going down the road too! I love them.

$320 for install? WOW, although, that's about right, considering most shops are charging $50-$60 per hour now. Might be a little high. The shop I went too is cutting me discounts just because they are getting to play with a new Camaro, lol. Jeff also wants to see if we can get to 300^2, 300rwhp w/ 300rwtq, naturally aspirated. He's into it enough, he's doing online research now, lol.

Anyway, nice vid scrming. I wish I had some video editing software, lol.
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It sounds so much better in person, lol. They definitely add to the exhaust note going down the road too! I love them.

$320 for install? WOW, although, that's about right, considering most shops are charging $50-$60 per hour now. Might be a little high. The shop I went too is cutting me discounts just because they are getting to play with a new Camaro, lol. Jeff also wants to see if we can get to 300^2, 300rwhp w/ 300rwtq, naturally aspirated. He's into it enough, he's doing online research now, lol.

Anyway, nice vid scrming. I wish I had some video editing software, lol.
Top rated shops in big metro areas can easily get $100 an hour... So yeah, a lot depends on where you live...

and thanks! I will try and get some better video today... I did notice as i got home that a nice easy take off from the stop lights sounded amazing!!! (I had the windows down even though it was like 15 degrees out! LOL!)
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Top rated shops in big metro areas can easily get $100 an hour... So yeah, a lot depends on where you live...

and thanks! I will try and get some better video today... I did notice as i got home that a nice easy take off from the stop lights sounded amazing!!! (I had the windows down even though it was like 15 degrees out! LOL!)

I did the same thing!!! I froze for the sound. And the under hood look? Definitely improved!!
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thats some growl!!! looks great and sounds better, thanks for sharing.
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Ok... not the best of videos... I will try to get some better start ups and revs.. May be tougher getting a good WOT take off.. roads are snow covered here and it's friggin' COLD! LOL!

Listen closely with your headphones and you can here some subtle difference... the differences are much more pronounced in person... and as I mentioned the 90 minute drive seems to really improved the sound...

So here it is:

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Great post scrming! I printed out your pics to give the installer as this will be a first for them. It may help them with what's involved.

I decided to get them installed at my dealer. I trust their work and they're giving me a break at $60 per hr. Hope they can get it done in 4 hrs.

Your pics may help!
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Awesome post! I can't wait till I can do mine..
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scrming....do you plan on doing a dyno with the JBAs, and then a dyno again after you've done the tune?
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I did the same thing!!! I froze for the sound. And the under hood look? Definitely improved!!
D'oah! I realized I didn't take a top side picture when the install was finished!

So I went out and got one now... updated original post with a nicely discolored header... LOL
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Very nice, definitely cleans up the sound. Maybe another 4-6hp or so but definitely cleans up some raspiness.
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Great post scrming! I printed out your pics to give the installer as this will be a first for them. It may help them with what's involved.

I decided to get them installed at my dealer. I trust their work and they're giving me a break at $60 per hr. Hope they can get it done in 4 hrs.

Your pics may help!
The install was pretty straight forward... the only time we really stopped and double checked was the part on where to cut the stock down pipe... Seemed like things would have ended up way to short... but it turned out that's exactly where it needed to be cut and things fit great! LOL

Josh used a band clamp as a guide:

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scrming....do you plan on doing a dyno with the JBAs, and then a dyno again after you've done the tune?
Hoping to dyno both the JBAs and the tune in the same session... do a couple pulls with the stock tune which should give me an idea on what I picked up with the JBA... and then load up the Trifecta tune and see what that looks like... right now I'm going to shoot for Jan 9th...
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The install was pretty straight forward... the only time we really stopped and double checked was the part on where to cut the stock down pipe... Seemed like things would have ended up way to short... but it turned out that's exactly where it needed to be cut and things fit great! LOL

Josh used a band clamp as a guide:

I'll be printing this one too, thanks.
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Scrming your right the headers made the exhaust sound even better! I have expensive head phones and I noticed right away that it smoothed out the exhaust even more! So from version 1.0 to version 2.0 with JBA headers it sounds smooth! Can't wait for some take-off vids and dyno results!
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