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Old 02-16-2010, 05:44 PM   #1
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The Camaro is causing Ford to lay off workers at the Mustang plant

WOW!!!!!!!!!! Was just watching the news, Ford is laying off 900 in one of their plants due to the competition of the Camaro.

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Ford lays off 900 workers at Mustang plant
By DEE-ANN DURBIN | ASSOCIATED PRESS | 4 hours, 55 minutes ago

Ford Motor Co. said Tuesday that it plans to cut 900 workers at the Michigan plant that makes the Mustang, after slow sales last year due to the tough economy and competition from the new Chevrolet Camaro.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9dtel...ang-plant.html
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:56 PM   #2
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Yep, hot off the press:

Ford lays off 900 workers at Mustang plant
By DEE-ANN DURBIN | ASSOCIATED PRESS | 4 hours, 55 minutes ago

Ford Motor Co. said Tuesday that it plans to cut 900 workers at the Michigan plant that makes the Mustang, after slow sales last year due to the tough economy and competition from the new Chevrolet Camaro.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9dtel...ang-plant.html
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:59 PM   #3
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Well, that sucks. It's never a good thing to see people laid off.
I don't regret the success of the Camaro, though. A lot of people kept their jobs, and were employed to meet the demand of the Camaro and Impala in Oshawa.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:07 PM   #5
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I love my Camaro but the thought of 900 people losing there job is terrible!
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:11 PM   #6
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As much as I love the Camaro, it is sad to see something like this happen. The economy is so screwed up, it's ashamed to still seeing people being laid off by the hundreds.
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Never good to lose jobs anywhere, Fremont CA is going to lose the Toyota (former Numi) plant, 4500 jobs lost that won't be coming back. Good for GM though...
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:12 PM   #8
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I never like to see anyone get their pinkslips , regardless if its one of the big three . I hope they land another job within the Ford system .
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:14 PM   #9
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So the excuse is because of the camaro, not thier own R&D?
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:17 PM   #10
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It's easy to make the Camaro a villian here. Remember that the plant in Flat Rock that builds the Mustangs also builds the Mazda 6. How come they didn't mention that. Since the Mazda 6 doesn't compete with the Camaro then who is the reason that the Mazda 6 sales are down.

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Old 02-16-2010, 06:18 PM   #11
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I wonder how long it will take the Mustang guys to chime in saying it isn't because of the Camaro, since the all mighty Mustang is so far above any competition.....bla....bla......bla.......
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:20 PM   #12
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Well, that sucks. It's never a good thing to see people laid off.
I don't regret the success of the Camaro, though. A lot of people kept their jobs, and were employed to meet the demand of the Camaro and Impala in Oshawa.



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So the excuse is because of the camaro, not thier own R&D?
The Camaro played a hand I'm sure. But it isn't R&D from Ford that is hurting the Stang. It's still an awesome car and gonna give some Camaro drivers fits on the street stock.
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atleast they're only getting laid off and not let go. They'll all get unemployment until production picks up again....if it ever does
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atleast they're only getting laid off and not let go. They'll all get unemployment until production picks up again....if it ever does
It will. the 2011 MY is just around the corner and it's ganna be a big upgrade from the ones right now. Plus, Camaro madness will die down too. I see the Camaro outselling the Stang still but not like it has been.
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Plus, Camaro madness will die down too.
That may not be true. There are still very few on the road, at least in Southern California. It's still the best kept secret. The Camaro is stunning, powerful with lots of bang for the buck.
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The 2011 5.0 Coyote may put them back to work.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:35 PM   #17
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all I can say is too bad, so sad
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:37 PM   #18
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That may not be true. There are still very few on the road, at least in Southern California. It's still the best kept secret. The Camaro is stunning, powerful with lots of bang for the buck.
Maybe, but the Chevy dealers here have had Camaros sitting on the lot. I personally know that my dealership has had the same 4 on the lot for 3 weeks now. I've passed them several times a week. This time last year, they would have been gone by the end of the second day. It's allready died to that extent. It will be a popular car for a while, but the next Mustang is pretty damn impressive and stock expectations are that it will be faster than ours. I've read up on it and if what I'm reading is accurate, they will be right. Maybe not by much, but Ford is uping their Stock game as far as this goes.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:43 PM   #20
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It's easy to make the Camaro a villian here. Remember that the plant in Flat Rock that builds the Mustangs also builds the Mazda 6. How come they didn't mention that. Since the Mazda 6 doesn't compete with the Camaro then who is the reason that the Mazda 6 sales are down.

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And the they are planning on upping the line rate 35%. So all told counting the reduced Mazda 6 sales, Mustang may not be down that much. And further, they may be realizing that the Camaro still has the Convertible to come which will keep the interest high.

So, yes, Ford has brought their A-Game with the new Powertrain lineup, but the Camaro will remain formidable sales competition.

So the tragedy isn't the Mustang/Camaro battle (and we at Camaro5 know who wins that, right?) but the loss of the 900 jobs. Hopefully that isn't permanent. Michigan doesn't need that right now......or ever again.
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Maybe, but the Chevy dealers here have had Camaros sitting on the lot. I personally know that my dealership has had the same 4 on the lot for 3 weeks now. I've passed them several times a week. This time last year, they would have been gone by the end of the second day. It's allready died to that extent. It will be a popular car for a while, but the next Mustang is pretty damn impressive and stock expectations are that it will be faster than ours. I've read up on it and if what I'm reading is accurate, they will be right. Maybe not by much, but Ford is uping their Stock game as far as this goes.
damn, I was hoping I wouldn't have to mod the performance yet...can't have a stock (not specialized) mustang running around faster than my Camaro
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Anyone wanting a mustang would be foolish to buy one right now. Its no secret they are upgrading for 2011.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:20 PM   #23
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Maybe, but the Chevy dealers here have had Camaros sitting on the lot. I personally know that my dealership has had the same 4 on the lot for 3 weeks now. I've passed them several times a week. This time last year, they would have been gone by the end of the second day. It's allready died to that extent. It will be a popular car for a while, but the next Mustang is pretty damn impressive and stock expectations are that it will be faster than ours. I've read up on it and if what I'm reading is accurate, they will be right. Maybe not by much, but Ford is uping their Stock game as far as this goes.
Cars sitting on a dealer's lot depends on many different things. When I went to buy my '69 Z/28 way back when, there were well over a hundred Camaros on the dealers lot, I had nine or ten Z/28s to pick from, twenty or more SS both in 350 and 396 configurations, and Camaros were selling like hotcakes. With the economy in the shape it presently is, I'm not surprised to see a few Camaros sitting on the lots, production and demand will eventually get pretty close to each other, but dealers should have cars on the lot to choose from. It should never get to the point again that they have none on the lot and you have to order to get one.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:21 PM   #24
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Never good news that people lost there job. I have a question though, obviously the Mustang is getting a new powerplant under there hoods, but since the design change is not to much will it be a big seller to the average person? I mean there are alot of people that buy a car just because of design, and not what is under the hood.
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Anyone wanting a mustang would be foolish to buy one right now. Its no secret they are upgrading for 2011.
well "what if" the 2014 Camaro came with 500+HP stock? A lot of Gen5s would be looking to sell I'll bet.
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