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14ZL1M6 09-30-2015 09:03 AM

Spark Plugs Choice
 
What plugs are you guys running? Is there one better than the other? I'm still running the stock plugs now, even with my mods.

Thanks

JANNETTYRACING 09-30-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 14ZL1M6 (Post 8661877)
What plugs are you guys running? Is there one better than the other? I'm still running the stock plugs now, even with my mods.

Thanks

NGK TR7IX gap 0.042

14ZL1M6 09-30-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING (Post 8661967)
NGK TR7IX gap 0.042

What is the benefit over stock?

ZO6 Bryan 09-30-2015 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 14ZL1M6 (Post 8662528)
What is the benefit over stock?

None unless you have upped your boost. The higher an engines compression ratio the colder of a plug you will need. Increasing boost is the same as increasing the compression ratio.

Good read. http://www.pcmofnc.com/index.php/blo...ere-do-i-start

14ZL1M6 10-11-2015 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan (Post 8662556)
None unless you have upped your boost. The higher an engines compression ratio the colder of a plug you will need. Increasing boost is the same as increasing the compression ratio.

Good read. http://www.pcmofnc.com/index.php/blo...ere-do-i-start

Thanks for the article...It was a good read!! :thanks:

jayno20 10-12-2015 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan (Post 8662556)
None unless you have upped your boost. The higher an engines compression ratio the colder of a plug you will need. Increasing boost is the same as increasing the compression ratio.

Good read. http://www.pcmofnc.com/index.php/blo...ere-do-i-start


That calculation seems to be a little off... Basically says stock should be heat range 7. From what NGK shows stock is heat range 6.

I currently have one step colder plugs from NGK (range 7) and by that websites calculations says I should be using a range 8.

I guess it is a good place to start, but just like he says in the text it isn't the bible.

Redlineviper 10-12-2015 10:43 AM

Pretty much anyone with over stock boost is good with a 7 heat range. Gapping the plugs down to around .030 helps many cars with blow out issues including mine.

14ZL1M6 10-13-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING (Post 8661967)
NGK TR7IX gap 0.042


Ted, Would this affect my tune by changing from the stock plugs to TR7IX?

JANNETTYRACING 10-14-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlineviper (Post 8680107)
Pretty much anyone with over stock boost is good with a 7 heat range. Gapping the plugs down to around .030 helps many cars with blow out issues including mine.

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx (Post 8680135)
I don't have a wild setup like you, but I gapped mine to .032 and it helped at WOT with no degradation to idle or part throttle driving.

If you having spark blow out issues on these cars something is wrong with the electrical or ignition system.

We can run gap of 0.042 at over 850 RWHP.

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Originally Posted by 14ZL1M6 (Post 8681671)
Ted, Would this affect my tune by changing from the stock plugs to TR7IX?

No sir no affect on the tune.

Ted.

winterboy8 10-14-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING (Post 8661967)
NGK TR7IX gap 0.042

Ted,

At what point, if any, is there a need/benefit to add upgraded electrical for the plugs, i.e. coils and wires? Any reason to upgrade to MSD or Granatelli parts?

Thanks

jayno20 10-14-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by winterboy8 (Post 8684034)
Ted,

At what point, if any, is there a need/benefit to add upgraded electrical for the plugs, i.e. coils and wires? Any reason to upgrade to MSD or Granatelli parts?

Thanks

I've wondered this myself, especially about the coils.

Stephen12ZL1 10-15-2015 04:52 AM

MSD coils are junk and many tuners have issues with them. Stock GM is more than adequate so leave them stock.

Redlineviper 10-15-2015 09:12 AM

I would say unless you are running crazy high boost levels and using exotic fuels the stock coils are just fine. The stock ones easily handle 18-19 pounds of boost on e85 or pump.

JANNETTYRACING 10-15-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1 (Post 8684975)
MSD coils are junk and many tuners have issues with them. Stock GM is more than adequate so leave them stock.

MSD coils are not junk, I have determined the problem is in the voltage supply to the coils.

Stock coils draw less than aftermarket coils.

Therefore installing aftermarket coils often overwhelms the voltage feed to the coils.

Many of the cars that have come through my shop with high power and spark blow out is easily fixed with a Wire upgrade to feed the coils now offered in a kit from MSD. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-88867

To take it a step farther we install JMS Ignition voltage booster to feed the coils and we can run large gaps at high boost and make more power.

http://www.jmschip.com/sparkmax-igni...ltage-booster/

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Originally Posted by winterboy8 (Post 8684034)
Ted,

At what point, if any, is there a need/benefit to add upgraded electrical for the plugs, i.e. coils and wires? Any reason to upgrade to MSD or Granatelli parts?

Thanks

I upgrade the plugs in our 125 RWHP packages and above

I upgrade the wires when we add headers.

Ted.


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