[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by CAP'N B

What's to say there won't be trouble with the truck if it has some of the same features as the car.

Good point. I drove a 2010 Camaro with a VIN under #4000. Needless to say, I had problems, and I was so fed up with the service department's responses to my problems that I walked out to the sales lot and took a brand new 2011 Camaro for a drive to compare - and the 2011 was cleeeeeeeean!! THAT was the point where I was considering going for a newer model. As time went by, we had to continue comparing my 2010 to the new models, made some discoveries, and was fed some BS like "Well we don't know if this was something they were doing for the new model only."

I am definitely going to be looking at a new Silverado with a lot of the same features that the 5th gen Camaro has... but when I do go shopping, I am going to bring a checklist with me and I am going to pick this truck apart before I hand over the cash.

A lot of the problems I had with my Camaro are problems that nobody would ever notice if they were taking a Camaro out for a test drive. Sometimes it takes driving a car 5+ days a week before you notice a funny noise here, a thump there, and a lack of performance over here.

For all those 18 months I was thinking to myself - "Man, GM should have hired me to give this model a good once-over before releasing it to the public."

Originally Posted by 1BADLS3

I don't think I have enough information to make a judgement. What was the problem that finally lemon-lawed the vehicle? Otherwise this is all sounding very vague...

Well I said in a previous post... I never had any catastrophic breakdowns... I was never left stranded... I was never in any danger...

BUT...

I was in an out of the dealer WAY too many times for WAY too many problems and my car spent WAY too many days out of service at the dealer... and that is why they decided to buy it back. I bought this car to replace my 30+ year old pickup as a daily driver. Turned out, my old truck had less problems with it and was more reliable.

Originally Posted by Fogey

I live in West LA and had no problems with the day or two of heavy rains. If you are that paranoid about rain in SoCal, I don't know what to say. Maybe move to the Sahara?

If you drive around on hill tops all day, then you don't know what it's like to drive through standing water.

The 405 freeway isn't an option in heavy rain during rush hour, unless you don't mind spending 3 hours trying to get home. I was driving from Torrance, through Carson and West Long Beach to get home... low lying areas with shitty drainage and 6"+ of standing water on the roads.

Originally Posted by Orange Krate

+1 I have lived in So Cali over 50 years and drove a friggin VW Beetle in the past rain storms and not a problem. Driving style is everything. As for getting rid of a lemon... Every model of car has one or two that fall down and go boom under the lemon law. Sorry to hear about the experience but it is a Camaro and chances are you will own one again some day because they are and will remain an awesome car. Even if the manual trans sucks at the moment!

Wet roads are fine in the Camaro. Hitting deep standing water at 40mph is asking for trouble. Driving through a foot of standing water in the Camaro is not fun. There is no "driving style" that would get someone home any quicker in the Camaro during a flood than a pickup truck with thick tread on its tires can.

On top of that... I wouldn't choose the Camaro to drive through 6" deep snow on a mountain road either.

Originally Posted by SSLarry

Sounds like a rough 18 months of ownership. I think if I went through it, I would never want another Chevy, let alone a another Camaro.

That said, I think your ability to get a Lemon ruling has as much to do about you as it does your Camaro. Most wouldn't have gone through all that. They would have sold it, or learned to live with the flaws as much as possible.

Your efforts were rewarded.

My view of Chevy is still awesome because my car is the anti-lemon (knock on wood).

Thanks dude, I agree. First of all, the customer has to actually recognize that there is a problem there. Secondly, you have to be persistent. I had nothing to do for 10 months when I was unemployed, and I wanted EVERYTHING to be fixed. I wanted my Camaro to work the way that my owner's manual said it worked. You have to go to the dealer, have an ACCURATE description of the problem written up on the work order, and keep copies of all of your invoices... luckily, I keep all my receipts and invoices in a folder for each car/truck. And really, I just got sick of making payments on a car that I was not able to drive because I did not have possession of it - because it was at the dealer for repairs so often.

Originally Posted by Ironheadspearo

you have to be joking right? dodge is the worst of the big 3

if your shopping a truck i would give ford the nod. i had a brand new f 150 in 2004 and it was a great truck just the 36 gallon tank was killing me driving 600 miles a week and the over 100.00 fill ups

A 36 gallon tank sounds like a blessing to me. I have a shortbed pickup with a 16 gallon tank, so I can't drive more than 150 miles before I have to fill up again.

But that's why I was so excited by the Camaro... twice the horsepower... twice the gas mileage... and a bigger gas tank.

Bigger gas tanks don't mean that you're paying more for gasoline...
Bigger gas tanks mean that you have to fill up less frequently