[Hylton]

Originally Posted by bolteon593

god you guys are whiney...


btw, using the argument "i paid for this waaaaa" is a silly one, no one's paid for their car as of yet and the under writting that actual production model will vary kinda goes in effect for this.

if the "drawbacks" of the camaro (hud, nav, hurst shifter, abl, etc etc) are too much for you guys to bare, just go elsewhere... you'll be missed but trust me, soon as you see one of those 100k camaros out on the road within a year or so of production; you'll be kicking yourself.

in the mean time, calm down and stop posting up every 3 days expecting some sort of revalation.

Originally Posted by StoutFiles

At what point would "etc,etc" dissapoint you? I've been trying to tell people here that everyone doesn't love the Camaro as much as the people on this forum; they won't put up with drawbacks. Just building a Camaro isn't enough, especially with an economy that gets worse everyday. They need every option they can get working right now.



Oh no, the Camaro only has 100 HP now! But they did say that actual production model will vary so oh well!

We've been over this before. That's for legal reasons, it's not there so we can't be dissapointed when they let us down. I don't get to sue GM, but I sill get to be pissed if they change up what they said they would deliver.

Originally Posted by bolteon593

99% of the people who will be driving this car wont even know what abl is if it doesn't exist when they sign the dotted line. same goes with all the other things that might not get in for launch, the only people will know is those building it and us, the ones who care enough to dig and search for info... the rest will just see a hot car with a happy driver.

the problem with people like you is that you have no faith in the people who have been building this car day in and day out over the past 3 years.

all things have been done to make this car everything and more then you thought it could have/would have been. whinnning and complaining otherwise is just about a direct insult to their work.


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yes, always have faith... but dont forget the other side of that statement: have some god damn understanding too.

Originally Posted by StoutFiles

This isn't Magic Dream Land where everything you hope for comes true. This is the real world where the economy is awful, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, and the only info coming out of showrooms right now from presenters is that ABL is now limited to the doors.

Faith? You act like they're doing me a favor by making this car? Wrong sir...I'm doing them a favor by buying this car. Camaro is not a religion or a god, it's just a car. It's a car GM needs to build with everything they said would be there or people, regular people who GM needs to buy the car, will take their money elsewhere.



The reports are that it's happening in some half-assed way...if those reports were wrong than surely someone from GM would say something. Please read the thread next time before you comment.

Stout has it right here - I can't get my head around all those people who seem to have this attitude that dis-satisfied customers should just shut up and take whatever is given them. That they have no right to voice their dis-approval in either the communication process, or the fact that a feature they expected may or may not be available (wish I could say for sure but you just get rhetoric from GM instead of clarity). Some here believe customers should just be happy there is a Camaro. WRONG!!! GM should be happy there are still people who are willing to buy GM.

The customer is always right (even when they are wrong). What I mean by that is you have to always try and make them happy. You may get sick and tired of all the complaints or concerns but you know what? That will never stop regardless of what you are selling. Addressing those complaints or concerns is what makes a company better and the astute manager within that organization will use complaints and concerns to improve processes and products and thus make a positive impact to the bottom line.